45-70 Suppressor Recommendations

[ICanSeeYourPixels]

Good morning!

I am looking for a suppressor to put on an 18" 45-70 T/C Encore. This will be a hunting rifle, but will probably see a lot more range time than hunting lobbing sub-sonic 400gr mortars at a gong entirely too far away.

Given the weight of the rifle, I am really trying to stay with a lighter can. Ti seems like a good choice given I'm not worried about heating it up. I already own one multi-cal can that I never really use because of the weight, so trying not to make that mistake a second time. The Fly45 seems like the clear answer, but I just can't justify spending almost 3x the money for something that would probably be 80% as good.


Below are my top 3 contenders, along with some other notable mentions and ones that have been crossed off the list already.

#1 - ECCO TLX 45
Super interested in this can, but also not a lot of info out there about it being used on 45-70 (though it is rated for it). Given the reduced volume, a little concerned about effectiveness without a lot of reviews out there. Incredibly light at 4.1oz. I did note one or two reviews mentioning that it seemed to have a decent amount of FRP,

#2 - YHM R45
Seems like a solid work horse. Not a lightweight for sure, but lighter than the Hybrid 46DT. Good reviews on 45-70.

#3 - SilencerCo Hybrid46 DT
Much cheaper than the 46M. Good suppression reviews, but a pretty heavy heavy can.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I haven’t used a .45 caliber can, but I am interested in seeing what others suggest. As the owner of a .45-70, I can’t say that light weight would be my priority. If it was me, I’d get the quietest 6” can in the 12-16 ounce range. And I would pay close attention to diameter to make sure I didn’t end up with something that obscured my scope or sights.

PS - after seeing how the Scythe turned out and the way they have handled it, I am perpetually boycotting that company. Even if they made the cheapest, highest rated one on the list, *I* would not purchase from them.

 

[Bluefish]

All I can say is good luck. I have 3 45-70 cans and none are as good as I would like. I have not found the perfect 45 cal rifle can yet. Of the 3 I own, the anechox 45L comes the closest. It’s light enough 12 oz and works decent with the closed cap. It’s well machined, but overpriced for the tech level. The jk armament is light, 9 oz, cheap, but loud. Simply too small to handle a 45-70. The banish 46 gen 1, is big enough and quiet, just 21oz, too heavy for me. Makes the rifle too front heavy. I did run it in the short configuration at 16 oz and it balanced ok on a 20” contender. I run it on a 2-stamp setup (14”) now and it’s awesome.

For now those 3 cans get used. The anechoix goes on a lever gun where weight is a priority. The JK goes on a AR where it being loud doesn’t matter, and the Banish lives on a SBR where the weight and length don’t matter.

I would say an ideal 45-70 can would be 10-12 oz, 1.7 to 1.8 in diameter and 7-8” long. I have not found that can. I really wish AB would do a big bore can as I have a 10 stack in a 375 bore and it’s great. Every time I have talked to them I ask and they say, no. The reason given is people will use it as a do it all can and be disappointed.

 

[North of 60]

Thanks for posting this thread as I'm interested in a .45-70 suppressor as well.

 

[ICanSeeYourPixels]

All I can say is good luck. I have 3 45-70 cans and none are as good as I would like. I have not found the perfect 45 cal rifle can yet. Of the 3 I own, the anechox 45L comes the closest. It’s light enough 12 oz and works decent with the closed cap. It’s well machined, but overpriced for the tech level. The jk armament is light, 9 oz, cheap, but loud. Simply too small to handle a 45-70. The banish 46 gen 1, is big enough and quiet, just 21oz, too heavy for me. Makes the rifle too front heavy. I did run it in the short configuration at 16 oz and it balanced ok on a 20” contender. I run it on a 2-stamp setup (14”) now and it’s awesome.

For now those 3 cans get used. The anechoix goes on a lever gun where weight is a priority. The JK goes on a AR where it being loud doesn’t matter, and the Banish lives on a SBR where the weight and length don’t matter.

I would say an ideal 45-70 can would be 10-12 oz, 1.7 to 1.8 in diameter and 7-8” long. I have not found that can. I really wish AB would do a big bore can as I have a 10 stack in a 375 bore and it’s great. Every time I have talked to them I ask and they say, no. The reason given is people will use it as a do it all can and be disappointed.

lol ending up with "meh" results is my main concern. That TLX for instance seems like a badass can for a single shot, but the volume makes me nervous the sounds suppression wouldn't be there. And there isn't much out there in terms of reviews evidence.

The R45 and Hybrid46 both have lots of positive reviews. But the potential of the Ramblin Man as an "Upgrade" or the TLX as a much lighter weight option are peaking my curiosity.

Given the general interest in the thread, here is a video I watched last night that had a good qualitative comparison between several of these cans. 450 bushmaster, but still something bigger than a 45acp.

 

[Bluefish]

lol ending up with "meh" results is my main concern. That TLX for instance seems like a badass can for a single shot, but the volume makes me nervous the sounds suppression wouldn't be there. And there isn't much out there in terms of reviews evidence.

The R45 and Hybrid46 both have lots of positive reviews. But the potential of the Ramblin Man as an "Upgrade" or the TLX as a much lighter weight option are peaking my curiosity.

Given the general interest in the thread, here is a video I watched last night that had a good qualitative comparison between several of these cans. 450 bushmaster, but still something bigger than a 45acp.

My concern with most reviews is, 1) no data. Most people don’t have access to actual impulse noise measurement equipment. 2) people say, yes it works good, but only own 1 can.

A hunting partner just got a dead air, so I can probably test the 3 I have against it.

The problem I see with 45-70 cans is people either make a “real” rifle can and it’s big/heavy ie Banish, bowers, griffin, or they take a pistol can and rate it for rifle use. The pistol cans are short, small diameter, and light, but no way they have enough volume for a 45-70. Also 45 cal cans have traditionally been marketed as a do it all can. Ie buy one can and run it on everything. Volume is low, so no real development like 30 cal or AR cans.

 

[waspocrew]

I just bought a Hybrid 46 DT for $600 at Scheels. If the Fly 45 was available, I might have gone that route for the weight savings. I’ll update when I have a chance to shoot it, but won’t have it on a 45-70 for a while (barrel needs threaded). For now, it’ll live on a 357/38 Lever gun.

 

[Bluefish]

lol ending up with "meh" results is my main concern. That TLX for instance seems like a badass can for a single shot, but the volume makes me nervous the sounds suppression wouldn't be there. And there isn't much out there in terms of reviews evidence.

The R45 and Hybrid46 both have lots of positive reviews. But the potential of the Ramblin Man as an "Upgrade" or the TLX as a much lighter weight option are peaking my curiosity.

Given the general interest in the thread, here is a video I watched last night that had a good qualitative comparison between several of these cans. 450 bushmaster, but still something bigger than a 45acp.

The hybrid 46 is a common recommendation, size is good, so it’s probably quiet, but heavier than I want. At my limit for weight.
R45 seems a bit short to have enough volume. But it could be good.
Imho TLX is way too small. Specs suggest it’s a pistol can rated for rifle use.
Rambling man is one I would like to try as it should have enough volume and it’s light.

 

[ICanSeeYourPixels]

My concern with most reviews is, 1) no data. Most people don’t have access to actual impulse noise measurement equipment. 2) people say, yes it works good, but only own 1 can.

A hunting partner just got a dead air, so I can probably test the 3 I have against it.

The problem I see with 45-70 cans is people either make a “real” rifle can and it’s big/heavy ie Banish, bowers, griffin, or they take a pistol can and rate it for rifle use. The pistol cans are short, small diameter, and light, but no way they have enough volume for a 45-70. Also 45 cal cans have traditionally been marketed as a do it all can. Ie buy one can and run it on everything. Volume is low, so no real development like 30 cal or AR cans.

100% agree.

Just out of curiosity I added a column with tube volume. Doesn't account for baffles, etc. obviously.

Really justifies the concerns on the TLX45.

 

[Bluefish]

You could really see the difference in volume between the banish and the JK. The JK had flames coming out the end and the banish did not. Also the JK is a lot louder. The JK would be about 12.75 in^3. 1.55” x 6.75. It’s a 6 baffle.

 

[cubdriver84d]

Been pretty happy with my dead air primal on a 16" marlin. Just wish it was a little lighter.

 

[Bluefish]

Real data from the silencer summit 2023, as You can see only one is hearing safe with sonic ammo. Barely safe with subs. 45-70 is loud.

 

[wyosteve]

Thanks for posting cabdriver- I have a Marlin Trapper .45-70 and the Dead Air Primal is exactly what I've been looking at. Appreciate your insight. Waiting for SilencerShop to get them back in stock.

 

[Samson7x]

For a limited use case, I'd opt for the YHM. Little lighter and cheaper than the hybrid.