360 grain arrow with grim reaper mechanical

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Ultimately isn’t the argument about shot placement. I use GR WTS special but I do not aim at the shoulder and I use them because I am purposely aiming for a double lung that would produce much more blood but those are at whitetail distances in a much more controlled environment. People probably have favorable outcomes with any mech because of shot placement. I do not think any mech really allows for a tight slightly quartering too shot which is why IW Bill is against Mechs because a strong COC allows you more forgiving effective set up for those shots specifically and if you use the Wide it provides a large cutting diameter similar to a mech but I think for most Whitetail mech users specifically have bow tuning issues or not tuned at all and mechs with large blazer vanes will essentially hide those tuning issues so when they do have a good outcome with a Rage or GR it isn’t confirmation that the mech is good or superior but probably you had a better shot placement that compliments that broadheads ability. The same untuned bow with 300fps mech with bad arrow flight in a quartering shot that hits shoulder is probably not recovered.
Your mostly right, shot placement is almost always to blame for failures. However animals do react and all you can control is where your pin is when the shot breaks, not where the animal will be when the shaft gets there. This discussion can also bleed into where to shoot based on what setup you have. An entirely different discussion for sure.
 

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Crazy things happen when arrows hit moving targets!

When we started filming whitetail hunts years ago we soon realized very few were standing still when the arrow arrived!

Always wanted to create a target that dropped so it was moving when the arrow got there and see what happens!


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“ I shot an 70# doe and my _____ broadhead worked flawlessly”

👆🏼Well I hope so…..grin

I stopped shooting the Spitfires when I was seeing signs of the blades chopping hair on the entry wounds. I think skinny cheap steel blade chopping hair on its way in is not optimal.

I would agree with the comment that Animals moving on the shot is a factor in less penetration.

Plus, and this is a big one for me- I NEVER want my arrow hanging out of the critter pushing them to run further.

Many times the animal doesn’t feel it or know they were hit with an arrow that passes through with no resistance.

I want a cut on contact head….effortless penetration.
 
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Pretty good video, thought it was going to support my point. Figured I'd share it anyways.
 
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I like Grim reapers, fatal steel and mini mags.

I hate any mechanical BH that uses a separate o ring, collar, band etc to hold the blade in. Grim Reaper was one of the first to solve that problem.

That said I don’t like mechanicals on large animals- elk, moose, coastal brown bear. I do like them on deer, sheep and black bears.

Goats and pronghorn are different- they are bony in my experience so a fixed is better.

As to this B3 destruckt I think it actually looks like a great design. Small compact with swept blades should fly very well and penetrate deep.

IMO the absolute worst style of fixed blades is the old traditional one like Thunderheads, or even the one piece solid ones… to big and plane







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Interesting topic. My friend lost a buck with a 150 grain Grizzlystick in this same scenario.
 
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