338 Win Mag. 230 ELD-X

Thanks for this thread. I’m resurrecting my M700 .338 wm. I dropped it into an MDT chassis and currently have the pipe headed to get threaded for a can. I’m going to go with the Rugged AK360….now I’m tempted to have it chopped a bit first…

Here it is next to my version of the infamous hobbit rifle.

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For what very little it may be worth to someone who just likes hunting with their pet .338, and wanted to hunt antelope or smaller/ligher animals without worrying too much about destroying a lot of meat....Regarding this bullet on smaller animals, I shot an antelope a few years ago with a .338 WM using the 230gr ELDX at about 2750 MV. Antelope was 349 yards. it was raining a little, shooting position/rest wasn't ideal, and first round hit a bit too far back and angling back at maybe 20 degrees. He didn't move with first shot, second shot hit just in front of the shoulder nearly broadside. Everything was pretty much as expected for a .338 WM and a light bodied animal. Both were pass throughs with what appeared to be mild to moderate bullet upset (as expected) and about 1 inch or less exit wounds. Probably significantly less tissue damage than a lighter, faster, bullet would have produced. Bottom line, this is a fairly high BC bullet that shoots a bit flatter than a 6.5CM and seems to work well as expected with light to moderate tissue damage on smaller animals (as basically does barnes TSX/TTSX, or most other bullets designed for the .338). But of course, without a CNS hit, the animals will usually run 20 to 60 yards or so. Sixty years ago I had a difficult time accepting the fact that foot pounds didn't directly equate to explosive results, rapid destruction and instant death. But, the good news is, if you enjoy "feeling" the power, want to save a little meat, and don't mind living with something which usually isn't DRT, the .230 ELDX could be a respectable LR round....if that is your kind of fun. Or, if you're gonna take it on a big bear hunt, it might be a way to get used to the rifle. And, if you go suppressed....it's like a moderate recoil, hard hitting .22!
 
For what very little it may be worth to someone who just likes hunting with their pet .338, and wanted to hunt antelope or smaller/ligher animals without worrying too much about destroying a lot of meat....Regarding this bullet on smaller animals, I shot an antelope a few years ago with a .338 WM using the 230gr ELDX at about 2750 MV. Antelope was 349 yards. it was raining a little, shooting position/rest wasn't ideal, and first round hit a bit too far back and angling back at maybe 20 degrees. He didn't move with first shot, second shot hit just in front of the shoulder nearly broadside. Everything was pretty much as expected for a .338 WM and a light bodied animal. Both were pass throughs with what appeared to be mild to moderate bullet upset (as expected) and about 1 inch or less exit wounds. Probably significantly less tissue damage than a lighter, faster, bullet would have produced. Bottom line, this is a fairly high BC bullet that shoots a bit flatter than a 6.5CM and seems to work well as expected with light to moderate tissue damage on smaller animals (as basically does barnes TSX/TTSX, or most other bullets designed for the .338). But of course, without a CNS hit, the animals will usually run 20 to 60 yards or so. Sixty years ago I had a difficult time accepting the fact that foot pounds didn't directly equate to explosive results, rapid destruction and instant death. But, the good news is, if you enjoy "feeling" the power, want to save a little meat, and don't mind living with something which usually isn't DRT, the .230 ELDX could be a respectable LR round....if that is your kind of fun. Or, if you're gonna take it on a big bear hunt, it might be a way to get used to the rifle. And, if you go suppressed....it's like a moderate recoil, hard hitting .22!

Interesting. I haven’t tried anything out of mine aside from Remington corelokts… my barrel LOVES them, and I have bang flopped everything from bears to sheep and goats with this gun and 250gr core lokts. It’s not anything flashy, but good lord does that gun drive tacks with that round. It’s not any crazy BC load, but it sure has performed in the down range carnage category.

I may give that 230 gr. ELDX a go however as it has a BC of .616…. Hard to argue with that.


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Clarification to my comments above regarding wound channel of the 230 not being excessive, as you would expect from a higher velocity, smaller caliber round...I don't have enough experience with this bullet to know if it gets splashy at close range, and didn't intend to indicate that. Either way, and for comparison, my wife has shot a few significantly large whitetail deer with the 160 eldx out of a 7mr, 2915 mv, at maybe 50 to 100 yards or so, and don't recall excessive damage therein. In fact, I can definitely say they didn't produce the damage on large deer as 70s era 150 gr. Sierra Game Kings out of a .308. We have also killed quite a lot of game in various calibers with the different varieties of Barns X bullets, quite a few Nosler Ballistic Tips, and Sierra Game Kings. Albeit possibly a fluke, the only bullet I have been disappointed with in 60 years of hunting/experimenting, was a 150 gr Accubond from a .308, which I recovered from a large (200lb field dressed) NE MO whitetail. That 75 yard shot hit the front part of shoulder, lower sloping part of spine, then through offside shoulder, but didn't exit. In fact, that is the only cup and core bullet I have ever recovered from a whitetail. The only other bullet I have ever recovered from a whitetail (all large) was a 53 gr. Barnes X bullet that, from a slightly above, straight rear shot, raked through about 17 inches of spine, several inches of neck, and stopped at the front side hide. l have never had anything not die within sight, from any X bullet, but I have also never seen anything even approach "explosive" or wide wound channel, from any X bullet. Having taken the long way around this issue, and relating all this back to the .338 230gr ELD-X, and generally speaking, I think the 230 would always produce a bigger wound channel than the Barnes bullets, but at long range the X loses its expansion potential, and consequently its wound channel production; and, at that point, and far beyond, the 230 gr., I believe, produces a respectable, useful, amount of expansion (and I assume, but never verified) penetration that is more similar to a Barnes X at much lesser ranges. Bottom line, I believe it should be a good LR bullet for .338WM. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on bigger game; although, I would like to know how it stays together at closer ranges. Further, because of its "less excessive" nature at distance, I would consider it good for edible game, to include those long range "hit bone" shots. And, albeit I do love my .223, 6.5CM, 7mm-08, 7RM, and .308 bolt guns there is just something about this cartridge I really like!
 
would like to know how it stays together at closer ranges.

I was close ti trying it, but my experience on a deer this year with a 230gr oryx at close range has me seriously reconsidering shooting stuff i want to eat with anything softer. It hit a rib going both in and out. While it wasnt .270 at 50 yards nasty, it was a little busted up and I suspect the eldx would be much much worse.
 
I’ve taken a few whitetail and one Black bear with the 230 eld-x in 340wby all sub 200 yards. Very impressive wound channels. One of the better 338 bullets I have tried so far.
 
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