338 vs 375 for Alaskan brown bear?

[Decker9]

Or, build the best of both worlds! 375-338wm

 

[omicron1792]

I weighed my Rifles, Inc. .375 H&H before this spring's trip. 7 lbs., 13 oz. with scope, but no rounds in the magazine. Recoil is a non-issue.

What does that mean?

 

[omicron1792]

Has anyone succeeded in building a lighter weight maneuverable 338 Lapua suppressed as a hunting bush gun ? I've seen some people build a 22" inch barrel 375 RUM.

I have a 20” in my Blaser r8. It’s a flame thrower. Problem is most suppressors aren’t rated for it.

 

[wyosam]

That’s a lot of horsepower for a short range brush gun. Seems like at those shorter distances, especially defensive close situations. You can drop down for more shoot ability and still have plenty of terminal velocity and less flame thrower. 338-06 or 338 RCM or WM


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[Arken7mm]

I moved to AK and had my “nearly perfect” AK rifle built.

P2 Summit Ti Action
PBB 3B 20” 35 Whelen
Stockys Carbon Fiber Sporter
TriggerTech
OEM M700 BDL BM

Same POI with and without Rugged Alaskan 360ti.


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So, you have a 20" inch barrel ? That's got to be a nice handy bush rifle...

I'm not too familiar with the 35 Whelen's performance as I never shot one. How is it compared to the 300 WSM in recoil and terminal performance on game for a short barrel bush rifle?

 

[LightFoot]

Weight and ergonomics being the same or similar, the 300 WSM will be a faster impulse, meaning sharper recoil.

My 35 Whelen without the can is stout but manageable. The can tames it very well. I think that is not just due to suppression but also the extended length.

It shoots 180 TTSX and 200 SP to the same POA at 100y. I would not hesitate to shoot either load to 300y for caribou, sheep, goat, or deer… but it wouldn’t be my first choice.

If you are hunting more than just bear, especially sheep or goat, where shots may be between 350 and 500y, the 300 WSM would be a better choice.

If this is a dedicated bear rifle that may take a caribou or moose if opportunity presents, 35 Whelen or 9.3x62 are better choices. Standard cartridges hold 1 or 2 more in the magazine.

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[49ereric]

If this is a dedicated bear rifle that may take a caribou or moose if opportunity presents, 35 Whelen or 9.3x62 are better choices. Standard cartridges hold 1 or 2 more.

Use a M1917 receiver for 9.3x62 or 35 whelen build and you get 6 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber.

 

[Arken7mm]

Weight and ergonomics being the same or similar, the 300 WSM will be a faster impulse, meaning sharper recoil.

My 35 Whelen without the can is stout but manageable. The can tames it very well. I think that is not just due to suppression but also the extended length.

It shoots 180 TTSX and 200 SP to the same POA at 100y. I would not hesitate to shoot either load to 300y for caribou, sheep, goat, or deer… but it wouldn’t be my first choice.

If you are hunting more than just bear, especially sheep or goat, where shots may be between 350 and 500y, the 300 WSM would be a better choice.

If this is a dedicated bear rifle that may take a caribou or moose if opportunity presents, 35 Whelen or 9.3x62 are better choices. Standard cartridges hold 1 or 2 more in the magazine.

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Plus, the 9.3x62 is larger in diameter compared to the 300 wsm. A better stopping cartridge for under 200 yards ?