308 150 grain TTSX Barnes performance this year so far.

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So far this year, my father and I have used the Barnes 150 grain TTSX 308 at @2825 FPS for 3 antelope and 2 cow elk.
First were the antelope, a doe and a yearling at 80 yards. Both dropped dead where they stood. Next the buck antelope, 325 yards, also dropped dead in his tracks. No bullets recovered.
First elk (mine) was at 285 yards broadside, she wobbled and took a step after the first shot, so I sent another one and she went down. Upon inspection first shot was through the ribs at the back of the lungs, second shot went through front leg bone and clipped the heart. No bullets exited, one was found on other side of ribs beneath skin, perfect mushroom, the other one was presumably in the gut pile.
Second elk (my dads) was also at 285 (in the same herd as mine) yards broadside for first shot. Bullet hit front leg bone and destroyed it. No further penetration, however there was a slight area on heart that looked bruised. She walked off with the herd and stoped about 100 yards away. She was standing and looking very sick. We were presented with the option of a “Texas heart shot” or a head shot. We tried the latter... At this point she was ranged at 380 yards. Needless to say we did not hold for the 20 mph wind that had not affected the first shot, but sure did when she was at the top of a ridge. The next two shots were misses. She then turned and walked back down hill towards us and again stopped broadside at 330 yards. Dad took a shot that went high and through the back about 1 inch above spinal cord. She was still standing. He corrected and put the next shot into the lungs and she went down. A couple of high fives while my father and I waited for her to expire.... about two minutes goes by and she stood up and started walking again... I put another shot into her lungs and she went down and stayed down. Upon inspection, both chest shots had frothy blood trickling out, no exit wound, the shot in the back above spine exited. One bullet recovered good expansion, however missing two of the four “petals” the other two were presumed to be in the gut pile and one exited.

Obviously the 308 150 grain TTSX was great on the antelope, but how was it on the elk?? My initial reaction based on my results would be that I was at about the maximum range for cow elk, and that I was possibly under gunned. Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Ryan
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if you'd like better/more consistent performance and want to stay with a mono, look at the hammer bullets. 155 gr would be a great pick. if you're buying factory, try the accubond.

barnes are a good choice if you can keep the velocity up and add a fair bit of resistance (shoulder). long shots and lungs are a problem with regards to performance for most copper bullets.

antelope are easy to kill..... elk are often very different.

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My hunting partner uses Barnes 168 in an 06 and I would say the performance you have is about as expected from what I have seen on elk. I agree with you about 350-400 yards is at the upper limit for that bullet/cartridge combo. If you wanted more tissue damage or more reach you could go to a more frangible bullet.
 

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I shoot a lot of Barnes and I'd say your bullets performed great. Elk are tough, and with yours I don't think you'd have seen a difference with any other bullet. With your dad's, well shot placement was not that great. Once an animal gets adrenaline going, I've seen tough animals soak up lots of rounds before going down for good. If you're missing petals, that means that your bullet had plenty of velocity to expand. They don't do that if they're going slow. If that lack of penetration on the shoulder is concerning to you, I'd step up to the 168 TTSX which was designed for the 308 and 30-06. It's min expanding velocity is lower than most of the 30 cals and it has a higher BC to maintian that speed longer. I shoot that in my 30-06 and would take shots on elk out to 500 yards or more.
 
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I have had good luck with the 168 TTSX on elk, but thats coming from a 300 wsm at 3180 fps. I loaded some up for my friends 30-06 and have worked great.

Personally I think elk are the toughest animals! I have seen 2 cows and a bull elk shot with a 308 win, and have never been impressed..... I would say it's a good reason to get a new rifle!
 
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I would say that is about as expected on elk out of a 308. I personally have taken 3 cow's with my 308 (150 TTSX, 168 TTSX, 165 GMX) and while it worked, I always felt under gunned. I've seen them taken with 30-06 with about the same results.

This year I stepped up to a 300 WM shooting 181 gr hammers at 3150 FPS. It made a heck of a difference, dropping a bull (>2x size of the cows I've shot) by breaking both shoulders and liquefying lungs.

I am very interested in trying out the new 151 gr Absolute Hammers in my 308, especially if one can get them to >3100 FPS at the muzzle.
 
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I might switch over to the Barnes LRX if expecting to shoot at those ranges. Its a slightly softer compound so it would open up at lower velocities.. elk shoulders and legs are tough on any bullet
 
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Thanks for all the advice! I will take a look at the LRX And the hammers! Looks like I might have to learn to reload...
 
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I really like the .308 as an all around big game rifle. I’ve taken deer, elk, bear, lion, mountain goat, and antelope with that caliber. The elk Ive killed with my .308’s are shooting heavier bullets. I used federal 180gr for a while with decent results. I’m now shooting 178gr ELDX (1946 ft lbs @300y), and it’s proven to work at reasonable ranges. If I think I’ll not be shooting close or I’m hunting bulls, I switch weapons and grab the 7mm rem mag shooting HSM 168gr Berger VLD (2481 ft lbs @300y).
 
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I will look at the heavier loadings next time elk is on the menu. I went with the Barnes 150’s over the 168’s for two reasons. 1. The 150’s had more energy and less drop than the 168’s out to 400 yards with less drop. This is according to the manufacturers data. 2. Barnes recommends a barrel with a 1 in 11 twist or faster for the 168’s, my browning is 1 in 12.
 
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I will look at the heavier loadings next time elk is on the menu. I went with the Barnes 150’s over the 168’s for two reasons. 1. The 150’s had more energy and less drop than the 168’s out to 400 yards with less drop. This is according to the manufacturers data. 2. Barnes recommends a barrel with a 1 in 11 twist or faster for the 168’s, my browning is 1 in 12.
One of my Remington .308’s has a 1:10 twist. I tried everything from 150gr to 180gr, and my groupings improved directly proportional with the heavier bullets. 178 to 180 performed best for me. Sure I lost velocity but gained an improved BC from the increased sectional density of the larger bullet. Same for my kimbers. FWIW!
 

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Second year in a row using Barnes TTSX 168 grain in a Tikka T3x Lite 30-06. Both shots thru the lungs, both bulls down within 75 yards. This year hit the bull from 205 yards. Recovered the bullet on the opposite side in the skin. Picture perfect mushroom, just like the promo pictures. Just an opinion from a guy who started shooting 150 gr. Core Lokts at deer over 40 years ago, just can’t bring myself to use anything less than 168-180 on elk. C4B75E09-1784-444B-A816-323CC49DB650.jpeg
 
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I used the 150 TTSX (hand load) out of my 308 on a bull elk this year, ~2720 MV. Upper lung shot at 100 yds. He fell, got up and stumbled about 10 yards then went down for good before I was going to put another one into him. Complete pass through with about 3/4” exit hole. I had already decided before the hunt around 300 yds (maybe 350 with a comfortable shot) was my limit with the round and MV. Have killed a few antelope out to 360 yds with the same round, complete pass thrus, that dropped them DRT.
 
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Two weeks ago, 150gr. Barnes TTSX factory load out of a .308 w/18” barrel, 1-230 yard broadside shot. Recovered the bullet under the skin on the opposite side of entry. 99%+ bullet wt. retention.
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The 150 gr. TTSX is all you need in a 308 win. just aim for bone (shoulder). I just used the 150 gr. TTSX in 06 for a bull hunt he didnt go 30 yards. one shot.
 
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