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sniper61

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I have room in the gun case for a back up gun. I plan on using my 700 ss in a 300rum for an up coming Ak. goat hunt. It is shooting 200 lrx and is topped with a night force 5.5 x 22 -50 and can take a goat farther then I want to. The other gun is a 270win mod 70 with a kavlar stock and the first scope I ever bought a 3.5 x 10 -50 Vx3 for $212. I need to work on a load for it . So what ball would you use for goats in it?
 

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My Win M70 270 Win with a 22" barrel shoots 55.0 grains(Nosler book max load) of IMR4350 @ 2960 w/ 130 grain Accubond into a tiny little hole. Accubond or Partiton should do you well.


Disclaimer: i've never killed a mountain goat. But I'm highly jealous. Lol
 

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I haven't killed one either. My 270 likes the 130gr Nosler Factory loads, 2964fps from a 24" barrel really well and I've taken a few whitetail with that load. It also shoots great with the 140gr accubond over 58gr of H4831 SC (short cut). It shoots 2940fps with that load and I have taken both whitetail and elk with it, plus a couple muleys with that bullet from a 270WSM. I think the 140gr accubond is hard to beat in the 270 for an all around bullet. The 130 has always worked really well too and the factory load has less recoil, I just like the higher BC from the 140gr. The elk was taken at 614yds. I put one through his lungs right behind the shoulder and a second through his neck after he rocked back hiding his vitals behind a tree. Both exited.
 

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I haven't killed one either. My 270 likes the 130gr Nosler Factory loads, 2964fps from a 24" barrel really well and I've taken a few whitetail with that load. It also shoots great with the 140gr accubond over 58gr of H4831 SC (short cut). It shoots 2940fps with that load and I have taken both whitetail and elk with it, plus a couple muleys with that bullet from a 270WSM. I think the 140gr accubond is hard to beat in the 270 for an all around bullet. The 130 has always worked really well too and the factory load has less recoil, I just like the higher BC from the 140gr. The elk was taken at 614yds. I put one through his lungs right behind the shoulder and a second through his neck after he rocked back hiding his vitals behind a tree. Both exited.

Mine likes the 58 grains of H4831SC with 140 gr AB, too. Mine will only do 2800 fps, though.
 
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I am working up a new load with the classic hunter Berger 130gr. The B.C. on this particular bullet is higher than the 130 berger VLD. This is the only Berger Classic hunter with a higher B.C. than it's VLD brother in the same weight. I called Berger to confirm. Looking like I am going to be pushing this 130 grainer at 3300 FPS out of my WSM.
 
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My Win M70 270 Win with a 22" barrel shoots 55.0 grains(Nosler book max load) of IMR4350 @ 2960 w/ 130 grain Accubond into a tiny little hole. Accubond or Partiton should do you well.

What he said. Either bullet would be great. H4831SC working up your load with Federal 215 Magnum match primers is a good one too! IMR4350 as stated is great also.


Disclaimer: i've never killed a mountain goat. But I'm highly jealous. Lol

What he said. Either bullet would be great. H4831SC working up your load with Federal 215 Magnum match primers is a good one too! IMR4350 as stated is great also.
 
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I have a ruger m77 .270 wood stock and I reloaded a bunch of 150gr hornady sst rounds for it using accurate RL19 powder. I'm not much of a long range guy and I've always liked a little heavier bullet just like I prefer a heavier arrow. I'm not into a ton of speed but rather weight behind things, I like knock down power. Had a guy years ago give it to me in this perspective take a 100lb guy and have him run as fast as he can let's say 20mph into a 300 lb guy, he may push him back 2-3 feet, but take a 250 lb guy going the same speed and have him run into the same guy and he's gonna push him further. Granted I'm not gonna get the same speed out of a 150gr vs a 130gr bullet but even if the heavier guy was going 1/2 the speed of the lighter guy he's still gonna push the guy further cause it's gonna take more to slow him down. I've never killed an animal with my 270 over 400 yards, and can't say if the results would have been different if I had been shooting a 130 vs the 150 at that distance. But I did end up shooting a cow at 250 yards when I was younger 1st shot was a 130 gr, 2nd and 3rd were 150 Gr. I shot her standing still all 3 shots within a 12" circle of the vitals, and you could tell the difference in the shots when they hit. She didn't seem to feel the first shot but the next 2 she really showed they hit. Could have been she was more alert then but I'm not sure. My family has always just been a heavier bullet fan, now hunting goats where a shot is longer I can't say I can help much once the lighter bullet slows down its going to expand more internally, but if it happens to be a closer shot some bullets won't expand very well at high speeds.


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I am working up a new load with the classic hunter Berger 130gr. The B.C. on this particular bullet is higher than the 130 berger VLD. This is the only Berger Classic hunter with a higher B.C. than it's VLD brother in the same weight. I called Berger to confirm. Looking like I am going to be pushing this 130 grainer at 3300 FPS out of my WSM.

I looked hard at that bullet due to the BC. I never did try it because the accubond load I have works well and I didn't know if it was worth changing to gain a little velocity. I'm not against Bergers. I have a 264WM that I shoot the 140gr Berger out of and it's done very well for me. Its an 11lb ready to hunt gun that never hunts anything bigger than deer with though, I don't pack it up the mountains. It sticks to windy plains for muleys or antelope and whitetail around home.

I haven't been able to talk myself into a bullet that expands that dramatically and doesn't always exit for the 270 yet. I wouldn't worry about broadside shots, just quartering shots. I've never seen a Berger fail or an animal go far after being hit by one, guess I'm just slow to change from the theory I want two holes in a bigger critter. I have a 300 win mag on the way for an upcoming moose hunt. I had considered getting one for elk but the 270 worked fine so I never did. I decided I did want a larger rifle for the Alaska trip I'll likely only do once in my lifetime. Moose are big and have a bad habit of dying in places they are hard to get out of from what I've heard, figured a 180 or 200gr accubond might give me more confidence breaking one down than a 140gr accubond. This way I also got an excuse to have another rifle also which I always like. Once I get the 300's loads perfected I might consider switching the 270 over to the Berger as it probably won't ever be my primary elk rifle again. It will be used for deer or similar size game in rough country and a back-up gun for elk.

I put to much thought into this. I should just stick to putting a good bullet in the right place and watching the critters fall. More load development leads to more practice shooting which leads to me being a better shot though, so I guess it works out in the end.
 

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I looked hard at that bullet due to the BC. I never did try it because the accubond load I have works well and I didn't know if it was worth changing to gain a little velocity. I'm not against Bergers. I have a 264WM that I shoot the 140gr Berger out of and it's done very well for me. Its an 11lb ready to hunt gun that never hunts anything bigger than deer with though, I don't pack it up the mountains. It sticks to windy plains for muleys or antelope and whitetail around home.

I haven't been able to talk myself into a bullet that expands that dramatically and doesn't always exit for the 270 yet. I wouldn't worry about broadside shots, just quartering shots. I've never seen a Berger fail or an animal go far after being hit by one, guess I'm just slow to change from the theory I want two holes in a bigger critter. I have a 300 win mag on the way for an upcoming moose hunt. I had considered getting one for elk but the 270 worked fine so I never did. I decided I did want a larger rifle for the Alaska trip I'll likely only do once in my lifetime. Moose are big and have a bad habit of dying in places they are hard to get out of from what I've heard, figured a 180 or 200gr accubond might give me more confidence breaking one down than a 140gr accubond. This way I also got an excuse to have another rifle also which I always like. Once I get the 300's loads perfected I might consider switching the 270 over to the Berger as it probably won't ever be my primary elk rifle again. It will be used for deer or similar size game in rough country and a back-up gun for elk.

I put to much thought into this. I should just stick to putting a good bullet in the right place and watching the critters fall. More load development leads to more practice shooting which leads to me being a better shot though, so I guess it works out in the end.


Nothing wrong with more shooting and getting new guns. 👍 It's a good thing Shooter's Pro Shop sells in bulk and cheap. 😀
 

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I've been shooting the 140 gr. Accubond from my .270 WSM the past 7 or 8 years. Its been a great bullet! Had great performance on deer, elk, and antelope from 170 to 773 yards. I've been running 64.5 grains of 4831sc and have held sub-1/2" groups very consistently. I keep saying I'm going to try something different just to play around, but cant get myself to change-the Accubond has been a solid performer for me.
 
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sniper61

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Thank you guys .I am going to try the 140gr. AB . I bought a box of 200gr. AB for the rum but the barnes lrx shoots to good to change. 3 5/8" group at 500 yards.
 

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First time posting, but this is right in my wheel house; consider something a little more fragile for goats.
If the LRX is the only thing that shoots well in your RUM, then by all means, but goats don't exactly require lots of penetration and usually don't require super long shots.
As far as the .270 goes, I have a 140 Accubond load for thicker game, but for sheep and goats I'd lean* towards the 130 Berger Classic Hunter mentioned above. A SST, GameKing, or similar would be just fine too.
Enjoy your trip and good luck! - AKMAN
*I'll be carrying them in a few weeks for sheep...
 
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sniper61

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Some thing is wrong with the 270 . The best group with the accubonds was 3" up to near 5" Loaded half grain jumps from bottom to max. Seems to me it's the gun . Not the load. It used to shoot any load tighter then that. I just got back from the range , I'll take it apart tonight.
 
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Might be the scope too. I spent half the summer chasing a intermittent accuracy issue, and finally cured it with a new scope.

For what it's worth, I saw a goat killed this last year with a .270 at about 200 yds. Goat took a step at the shot and the 150 gr partition impacted a bit far back and got nothing but liver. Nevertheless he was down, dead and rolling in maybe 10 sec. The soft front on that NPT shredded things enough that it bled out very quickly.

As mentioned, they aren't very thick and serious penetration isn't really required. I got exits on two goats even with Bergers. Accubonds typically do a lot of damage too, and if you can get them too shoot I'm sure it's a good choice.

Yk
 
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sniper61

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After changing scopes and checking other balls, It Turns out the rifling are worn . The scrubbed barrel starts out about 10" group then tightens up to about 4" . Not enough time to rebarrel now. Picked up a kimbar montana 338 for the hunt. A little long but light.
 
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