243 Win Neck Die

I have both for multiple calibers but mostly use lee, they take some messing around to get right, and work much better on a press that cams over
Bushing dies are simpler and work better on a progressive press or one which doesn’t cam over
 
You can also use a normal full length die and simply unscrew the die body a full turn - it squeezes the body and just doesn’t push the shoulder back so it still requires lube. My most accurate rifle had all its ammo made this way with regular old RCBS FL dies made back in the 1970’s or 1980’s.
 
Lee collet die- no lube, no cleaning of lube. If I’m only sizing necks, I see no reason to add those steps.


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You can also use a normal full length die and simply unscrew the die body a full turn - it squeezes the body and just doesn’t push the shoulder back so it still requires lube. My most accurate rifle had all its ammo made this way with regular old RCBS FL dies made back in the 1970’s or 1980’s.
That works fine for a tapered round with a long neck like a 270 but try it with a straight bodied case like a 243 and it is a disaster
 
That works fine for a tapered round with a long neck like a 270 but try it with a straight bodied case like a 243 and it is a disaster
I’ve loaded thousands of 243 rounds this way and it’s always worked great.
 
I’ve loaded thousands of 243 rounds this way and it’s always worked great.
It may work great with some (maybe most) combinations of die, chamber, and brass. Sometimes though, the body squeeze pushes the shoulder forward.

I've had brass that went from once fired and would chamber easily, to partially sized and too long, to sized correctly and chambers easily again as I ran the die down.
 
It may work great with some (maybe most) combinations of die, chamber, and brass. Sometimes though, the body squeeze pushes the shoulder forward.

I've had brass that went from once fired and would chamber easily, to partially sized and too long, to sized correctly and chambers easily again as I ran the die down.
Very true.
 
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