.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[_MountainBum]

20” 22cm
88gr eldm

Antelope, 320 yards

3100 MV
2630 Impact Velocity

Bullet performed exceptionally, vaporizing internals and expanding without grenading. Antelope took 10 steps and died. Bullet buried in offside hide and was recovered as pictured.

Friend killed another at 200 (same rifle) with exact result later in the day. Bullet held together and was found, intact, between offside ribs and hide. Lope died within 15 steps.

2780 Impact velocity

Main takeaway for both kills was the ability to watch impact and have a follow up round chambered & ready to go with minimal effort and the efficacy of the 88gr eldm.

 

[woods89]

Awesome story, thanks for sharing. There’s some dust in my eyes.


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It got a little dusty here too when I read this story. Well done, @KHntr ........

 

[coya]

I recall form's recommendation of 23.7 grains of 2808 in his 77 tmk load in this thread. Sierra lists the max load for that bullet as 22.0 grains of imr 8208 xbr.
I'm brand new to reloading, can you guys explain how/why you would go above max in this situation ?

 

[The Guide]

I recall form's recommendation of 23.7 grains of 2808 in his 77 tmk load in this thread. Sierra lists the max load for that bullet as 22.0 grains of imr 8208 xbr.
I'm brand new to reloading, can you guys explain how/why you would go above max in this situation ?

For 223 load data or 5.56 load data?

Jay

 

[coya]

For 223 load data or 5.56 load data?

Jay

223

 

[Matt5266]

I recall form's recommendation of 23.7 grains of 2808 in his 77 tmk load in this thread. Sierra lists the max load for that bullet as 22.0 grains of imr 8208 xbr.
I'm brand new to reloading, can you guys explain how/why you would go above max in this situation ?

I shoot 23.5 out of my Tikka

 

[ericmcd]

I recall form's recommendation of 23.7 grains of 2808 in his 77 tmk load in this thread. Sierra lists the max load for that bullet as 22.0 grains of imr 8208 xbr.
I'm brand new to reloading, can you guys explain how/why you would go above max in this situation ?

If I understand correctly Tikkas are tested to European 223 CIP pressures which is higher than the US SAMMI 223 pressure. It is closer to the same pressure rate as our 5.56

 

[Eleven]

From hodgdon’s sight, their max load is more in tune with what I’ve found.

 

[z987k]

In a modern bolt gun there's no reason you can't run everything at 63kpsi... or the 4,350 bar that just about everything new seems to list for spec.
Just because something is made for a gas gun doesn't mean you can't load it for a bolt gun. They finally started listing both with the arc cartridges.

 

[The Guide]

223

Most 77gr load data is for 5.56 which is higher pressure than 223. 223 data is often lower pressure. 223 and 5.56 ammo is often loaded at 55k psi to be safely shot in gas guns while it can be safely operated at 62k to 65k in a bolt gun.

Jay

 

[Badlandoutdoors]

I’m in the 3700’s now, but the more I make my way through this thread, the more I’m considering selling my .300 Win Mag to fund a 22 or 6Creed. Need to get a few deer under my belt with the 77gr TMK from my AR before I commit to the jump.

That makes two of us. Bought a 22 creed earlier this year and absolutely love shooting it!

I have a 7prc that I am seriously considering selling and then getting a 6 creed. It’s a lightweight rifle and that 7 just bucks so much it’s not much fun to shoot more than about 10-20 rounds.


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[FredH]

That makes two of us. Bought a 22 creed earlier this year and absolutely love shooting it!

I have a 7prc that I am seriously considering selling and then getting a 6 creed. It’s a lightweight rifle and that 7 just bucks so much it’s not much fun to shoot more than about 10-20 rounds.


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Sounds like an excellent excuse to own two rifles.

 

[9487329]

I shoot 23.5 out of my Tikka

what mv are you getting?

 

[z987k]

I’m in the 3700’s now, but the more I make my way through this thread, the more I’m considering selling my .300 Win Mag to fund a 22 or 6Creed. Need to get a few deer under my belt with the 77gr TMK from my AR before I commit to the jump.

That's absolutely smoking. Long barrel and some magic pixie dust(rl26)?

 

[Thegman]

That's absolutely smoking. Long barrel and some magic pixie dust(rl26)?

I think he means reading post #3,700 in this thread

 

[z987k]

I think he means reading post #3,700 in this thread

Ah. Yup.

 

[DadWil]

Only because I like you…

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I'll take that .. thanks

 

[coya]

Thanks all for the knowledge. That's the type of info I can't learn in the reloading manuals

 

[Big_wals]

Shot a cow elk with 80 eldms yesterday evening. 468 yards, impact velocity around 2015 fps. She ran 50ish yards, stopped to look at me, and then tipped over. Hit her a little farther back than I would like (wind reading error) but still ahead of the diaphragm, through the back of the lungs.

Full penetration through the chest cavity, broke a rib on the offside and found bullet fragments under the hide. Didn’t get any pics as I only had one pair of gloves and minimal water for washing my hands.

First elk for me personally with a .223!

 

[C_chats_choots]

That's absolutely smoking. Long barrel and some magic pixie dust(rl26)?

Yeah that was talking about post count like someone else said. If I was getting 3700fps, I’d be selling them things at a very high premium .


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