22 Creedmoor - Tell me why I should or shouldn't

[Nine Banger]

...or buy a .22 ARC, which does well in short barrels and will gain hugely from 80k ammo.

I'm at sea level.

I have to pay the piper with powder.

 

[nm.otter]

+Peak is going to be fun in ARC cases.

 

[KHntr]

A creed at close range is going to turn a deer into jello.....so keep that in mind.

I dunno, I shot a whitetail at 7 yards last November with an 88 ELD m, was less traumatic than I expected (for both me AND the deer).
Was likely around 3190 fps impact velocity, heart/rib/offside leg, and exit. Didn’t really lose any meat to be honest, other than some shank meat on the offside. Even managed to shave a few slices off the ticker

And there was a pretty good blood trail as well, for the 5 yards he made it from the impact.


That said, the bullet was barely into the cavity above the brisket. Had I not dropped the shot and hit him squarely halfway up through the front shoulder as per usual, it likely would’ve been messier.

 

[TradLife406]

I got one last year for my kids. Planning on making another one.
No cal restrictions in Montana.

The recoil to performance is what makes it a badass round. 3073 in a 16" with 88 tmks.

Haven't tested it on elk yet. But 4" wounds on deer won't be any less on an elk.

 

[Matt5266]

Killed a elk at 410 yards last year with a 223 and 77 TMK. It absolutely good to go at 300 yards

 

[TBoschma]

22 creed won’t offer you any more than what you have. Even though 22 creed is low recoil, it’s more than a 223. As someone who lived in NC for years, if I were only hunting in NC, I’d only use a 16” 223 with a suppressor.

@TBoschma is shooting a high pressure version of the 223 77 TMK from badlands. He’s getting some good velocities and groups. I plan to check them out. If they are the truth, there’s really no need for a 22 creed unless you want it.

It also just has that fun factor to it so easy to shoot.

 

[Ajsomp]

It also just has that fun factor to it so easy to shoot.

Yeah. A properly set up 223 with a suppressor doesn’t make you want to shoot anything else. At least that’s my take

 

[Kauaihunter]

22CM with Hornady Precision 80gr ELD-X going 3105fps average at the muzzle out of an 18.75” Preferred Barrel. Axis doe at 60 yards. Heart and lungs turned to mush. All four legs pointing to the sky doing a complete barrel roll in the air. Didn’t roll 10’ from where she stood. Nobody needs one but it’s cool!

First pic entrance, second exit.

 

[mtnbound]

I have been watching videos and reading up on the 22 Creedmoor. I am a disabled vet (titanium rod for a neck, torn shoulders, and chronic headaches) and recoil is getting harder and harder to handle. I hunt suppressed and have recently added one of the suppressor muzzle brakes to help out even more. I mainly whitetail hunt in NC where 22 centerfire is legal for deer hunting. I currently hunt with a 7mm-08 and 5.56.

Why should I get one for deer hunting?

Why shouldn't I get one for deer hunting?

The 22CM is great, but your 223 can easily do 300 yds, especially if you reload. My 223 with the 88TMK and my 22CM with the same are only .2 mils apart at 300 y.

 

[todd458]

Pretty unbelievable Ballistics. Never been a big fan of energy. I look at what velocity the bullet is designed to perform at a minimum. Bullet is the warhead the case is just the delivery system.
Based on the energy of 357 magnum at point blank range, it does not have enough energy to take down a Whitetail deer? A 44 magnum is not much better. I think you would agree that energy on target is skeptical at best. At 73 grain bullet is traveling a little over 2000 ft./s. That’s maximum fragmentation and/or performance of just about any bullet I know. Sure bullets will expand down to 1800 ft./s and some people say 1700. “hornady”. however, it will only be partial expansion and or fragmentation.
This is straight off the Internet, actually chat, GPT.
A standard .357 Magnum round generates between 500 and 600 foot-pounds (ft-lbs) of muzzle energy, depending on the exact load. [1, 2, 3]
For example, a common 158-grain standard load typically achieves about 530–550 ft-lbs, while a lighter 125-grain round can push past 580 ft-lbs

 

[Huntnpack 2]

Op, whichever way you go you may consider a bit more weight to the rifle. Also stock design and fit can play into felt recoil. Also a bit heavier optic can help. As well as a bit heavier of a suppressor.

I’m not suggesting to put together a Heavy Rifle that isn’t manageable for you to utilize, just don’t
go too light.

If you feel more comfortable in the performance of the 22 CM. go with that. Confidence is key.
It will do what you’re wanting to achieve.
The 77 TMK’s run well in the Creed & kill well for a lot of people.

I Have a 22 CM now that is an amazing rifle to shoot & hunt with. It is not Lightweight nor Heavy.
Recoil is light and straight. Fit is perfect for me, & comfortable. The more I shoot the more confident I become. I am putting this together for a reason similar to yours, I don’t like recoil or concussive blast. I shoot this rifle more relaxed than any previous one I've owned. I believe this helps in managing what little recoil it has better.

 

[USAF Ret]

Op, whichever way you go you may consider a bit more weight to the rifle. Also stock design and fit can play into felt recoil. Also a bit heavier optic can help. As well as a bit heavier of a suppressor.

I’m not suggesting to put together a Heavy Rifle that isn’t manageable for you to utilize, just don’t
go too light.

If you feel more comfortable in the performance of the 22 CM. go with that. Confidence is key.
It will do what you’re wanting to achieve.
The 77 TMK’s run well in the Creed & kill well for a lot of people.

I Have a 22 CM now that is an amazing rifle to shoot & hunt with. It is not Lightweight nor Heavy.
Recoil is light and straight. Fit is perfect for me, & comfortable. The more I shoot the more confident I become. I am putting this together for a reason similar to yours, I don’t like recoil or concussive blast. I shoot this rifle more relaxed than any previous one I've owned. I believe this helps in managing what little recoil it has better.

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That helps a lot. I still have my 308 and love shooting my 7mm-08. I just bought one of the muzzle brake endcaps for my suppressor to help as well. I am with you on the rifle fit. I have lighter rifles that are just more comfortable to shoot and heavier rifles that feel like I take more recoil. I built a 308 on the heavy side with a custom stock that I can fit. It seems like it has more recoil than a 280 AI I own.

I mainly hunt with my 7mm-08, which is a great round. I do have some fields I hunt that go out to 350 - 400 yards and having something flatter that still has good velocity would be a bonus...plus low recoil where I can practice a lot more.