22-250 vs 22 Creedmoor?

[srodge10]

I am looking to rebarrel my Savage 112. I am looking for a long range varmit hunting round. I am stuck between 22-250 and 22 Creedmoor. Has anyone had experience with 22 Creedmoor? If so is it fairly simple to reload for and how does it perform in the real world (not just velocities on paper)? Thanks for your input.

 

[Geewhiz]

Knowing nothing about a 22 cm, I would say that it would be hard to go wrong with a 22/250 for any kind of varmit hunting.

Sorry I didnt answer your question.

 

[Flyjunky]

The 22 creed has a better case design and if you plan on shooting heavy I'd probably go with the CM. I used to have a 22-250 and it shot great, deadly coyote gun.

 

[EastMT]

2 different animals. 22cm is for heavier bullets where the 22-250 is more aimed at varmints.

IMO it’s the finest performing of the CM family compared to what it was designed to eclipse. 6.5CM vs 260, meh, 6mmCM vs 243 with 95g partitions, meh.

I have a donor rifle I may turn into one, but undecided at this point if I’d use it for anything that’s not already covered.

 

[srodge10]

I’m thinking 80gr Berger vld target bullets.

 

[CApighunter]

Look at the 22 creed as an ackley’d 22-250, you can actually fire form brass if needed. Mine is throated long, twisted fast and loaded hot but I’m able to sling 95gr SMKs at 3200fps from a 22 inch tube with H4350. Load development was stupid simple, thanks to an excellent smith in Shaen (shooter71) and a rock creek blank. Everything the 22-250 does, the creed does better. Brass is available now or you can neck down 6 creed brass, which is what I did.

 

[BWB]

I have both and the 22-250 has only been touched once since I built the 22 CM. Like stated above already, if you are wanting to shoot 55 grain and under the 22-250 will work perfectly fine. If you want to shoot anything heavier the 22 CM is the clear winner. It will mag feed with less issues, push ANY projectile faster. The only down side I see is possible barrel life but the 22-250 running 55s at 3600 isn't saving any barrels...

 

[sveltri]

I bought a Savage model 12 .223 with a 1:9 barrel, rechambered it to 22-250 Imp. Shoots 77 gn bullets extremely well.

 

[wind gypsy]

Look at the 22 creed as an ackley’d 22-250, you can actually fire form brass if needed. Mine is throated long, twisted fast and loaded hot but I’m able to sling 95gr SMKs at 3200fps from a 22 inch tube with H4350. Load development was stupid simple, thanks to an excellent smith in Shaen (shooter71) and a rock creek blank. Everything the 22-250 does, the creed does better. Brass is available now or you can neck down 6 creed brass, which is what I did.

Do you shoot animals with that smk? The numbers are crazy with that BC/velocity.

How many rounds down the tube and are all of the bullets holding together?

 

[CApighunter]

Do you shoot animals with that smk? The numbers are crazy with that BC/velocity.

How many rounds down the tube and are all of the bullets holding together?

Haven’t had it on fur yet, want to try and make it out to NV for some yotes this winter. Roughly 200-250 rounds down the tube so far, no issues with shucking jackets. From what I’ve read necking down hornady 6 creed brass gets you a little more capacity than other brass options, so that plus the long throat is probably where the speed is coming from. It’s definitely at the upper end, hit pressure around 3250ish.

 

[Ridge86]

22 creedmoor all the way, my 22-250 hasnt left the safe since I built my 22 creed! Absolute dog killing machine, I shoot the 80.5 bergers, it’s hell on fur for sure! My favorite gun

 

[Boblee]

I have both , I am not a creedmoor fan for 6 or 6.5 but i really liking my 22 creedmoor , if you are gonna shoot the heavier bullets I think the 22 creed is the way to go , the design and slight capacity increase really seem to help with bullets 75 grain and over . The 80.5 berger really shoots good and is fast out of my 24 inch barrel.

 

[B23]

They are both great cartridges. My way of thinking if you want to launch bullets, of any weight, a little faster then go 22CM. If you don't care that much about velocity or you want the option to shoot more available factory ammo then the 22-250 may be the better choice.

I think it could be argued the case design of the Creedmoor is slightly better but I doubt the vast majority of shooters or reloaders would ever be able to shoot the difference. As for one being for shooting heavy for caliber bullets and the other for light the case doesn't know the difference it's all about how the gun is built that determines how it'll be used. I'm a fan of both and a 22-250 with a fast twist barrel and chambered properly is just as capable of a long range varmint rig as a 22CM it just won't shoot quite as fast but coyotes typically don't know the difference.

 

[Seeknelk]

I had a 22-250 12 twist. Rebarreled to 22 cm - 7 twist. I absolutely love it. 22-250 with a 8 twist would be great to. Bottom line is the CM shoots all bullets weights a bit faster and there is awesome alpha brass and can neck down lapua 6 and 6.5 brass. Alpha is as good as lapua as far as I can tell.
But I'm no benchrest shooter.
24 inch barrel is shooting 88 eldm at 3200 with 4831sc. I want to try a load with Norma URP next. I'd rather have an 7.5-8 twist barrel. The 7 twist often starts to blow up bullets as they age.

 

[Harvey_NW]

Well this oughta piss the wife off good headed into the holidays.. Thanks for the thread, I didn't even realize how big of a POS my 22-250 is and that I need a 22 creed instead!

 

[Seeknelk]

Well this oughta piss the wife off good headed into the holidays.. Thanks for the thread, I didn't even realize how big of a POS my 22-250 is and that I need a 22 creed instead!

How did you arrive at that conclusion?.

 

[Anschutz]

I look at brass availability when making these choices. The only brass available for the 22CM is Hornady which I've gotten good accuracy but not much case life and Peterson which I've heard good things about. I like Lapua brass because I don't have to do anything to it prior to loading. I'm not paying $1/pc for brass I have to resize. I'd go with a fast twist 22-250 and Lapua .22-250 brass. The coyote isn't going to notice the 1-200fps when you remove it from the nightly chorus.

 

[dirtytough]

I have a 22-250 and am building a 22 Creed. The main reason I’m building a Creed is because I believe it will feed better from a detachable mag.

 

[gknutson]

Ive had a 22" 22 creed for a few years. I've ran 70 gr bergers, 75 bergers, 69 gr smashing, 80 grain eldm, and 75 eldm (my favorite) at coyotes.

Speeds ranged from 3300 to 3600 using H4350 and it's a absolute hammer on coyotes. Not fur friendly at all.

I see no advantage for a 22-250 unless it's factory ammo availability.

I've had good luck necking down 6 creed hornady brass but you can run hotter SPP lapua brass if your rifle is set up for it.

 

[LKY_DVL_1]

22-250 all day