I've really enjoyed writing this the past two years so...
Year Three. This year we are hunting the MT combo tag and will be making two trips. One week for archery with a focus on elk and a second week during the rifle season for deer and possibly elk. My buddy’s dad and friend will also be hunting at the same time. Because of this we decided to each take a turn driving while the other group flies. For the first trip we flew and planned to have them drive home any meat we end up with. Next time we will drive and bring the wall tent.
Day 0:
Got dropped off at the airport after work and cleared TSA in ~1hr (flying with bows and handguns). Finally arrived in Bozeman at 11:45 local time and got our bow/firearm case and got our rental vehicle. They were out of small SUVs so we got a truck for the same cost (score!). Next we headed to Walmart to pick up some food and a stove fuel can as we couldn’t fly with one. We were able to get our food but they were out of isobutene fuel canisters (guessing others had the same plan we did). Still in need of fuel we started our drive to our hunting location at 1am local time. Our route took us thru Butte and after a second trip to Walmart we were still fuelless and out of options. About 30 minutes out from our hunting location I had to lock the brakes to avoid hitting a decent bull elk and group of 7-10 cows (things are looking up). By 5am we arrived at our hunting location and got our sleeping pads and bags out for a quick nap prior to starting our day.
Lessons Learned: I’m going to look into a stove pot + burner option that can be used with a fire if we can’t get fuel.
Questions: N/A
Day 1:
Day 1 felt a lot more like day 0 round two. With an hour of sleep we had a bit of a slow start. We had hunted this area two years previously and had some areas picked out. We hiked up to a high ridge and let loose on the bugle tube and did a bit of glassing. With no response we began moving along the ridges bugleing and glassing any opening we could see. By midday with no responses or fresh sign we were ready to move on to plan B.
Back at the truck getting packed up and ready to move we had a MT Game Warden pull up. He asked for our licenses and told us he was glad we had our archery permits as most out of state hunters forget to buy them. We got to talking about elk hunting and how we hadn’t seen much sign and were surprised based on our experience from last year. Based on our conversation his thought was that two years ago the elk were much more concentrated due to the snow level.
We also discussed the presence of grizzly bears and other animal attacks in the area. Based on his experience he said starving juvenile mountain lions were the biggest culprit of human attacks. After we told him our stalked by two mountain lions story from two years ago he asked why we didn’t shoot them. I said that we didn’t want to get in trouble and he told us that if we are being stalked we wouldn’t get in trouble. If we shot a bear that was in our camp licking peanut butter out of a jar we would have an issue, but otherwise teaching predators to fear humans is something that we need to do more of. I was really surprised that seemed to be advocating firearms and lethal force rather than the classic FWP “bear spray is most effective”.
After an interesting conversation we were on our way to our new area. Once there we started our second big hike with the same results as last time. We did have more encounters in the new area, but unfortunately they were all with side by sides. Thinking we needed to get a big vantage and look for silent elk we planned to get to a high point and for an hour or two at first light.
Lessons Learned: I am no longer worried about shooting near or shooting a stalking/charging predator. Even with plenty of previous rut sign our hunt area seems to be a winter range type of area that is not typically a good area during a warm weather rut.
Questions: Are there any things you do other than glassing, bugeling, and hiking at multiple elevations looking for sign to determine if an area is good or not?
Year Three. This year we are hunting the MT combo tag and will be making two trips. One week for archery with a focus on elk and a second week during the rifle season for deer and possibly elk. My buddy’s dad and friend will also be hunting at the same time. Because of this we decided to each take a turn driving while the other group flies. For the first trip we flew and planned to have them drive home any meat we end up with. Next time we will drive and bring the wall tent.
Day 0:
Got dropped off at the airport after work and cleared TSA in ~1hr (flying with bows and handguns). Finally arrived in Bozeman at 11:45 local time and got our bow/firearm case and got our rental vehicle. They were out of small SUVs so we got a truck for the same cost (score!). Next we headed to Walmart to pick up some food and a stove fuel can as we couldn’t fly with one. We were able to get our food but they were out of isobutene fuel canisters (guessing others had the same plan we did). Still in need of fuel we started our drive to our hunting location at 1am local time. Our route took us thru Butte and after a second trip to Walmart we were still fuelless and out of options. About 30 minutes out from our hunting location I had to lock the brakes to avoid hitting a decent bull elk and group of 7-10 cows (things are looking up). By 5am we arrived at our hunting location and got our sleeping pads and bags out for a quick nap prior to starting our day.
Lessons Learned: I’m going to look into a stove pot + burner option that can be used with a fire if we can’t get fuel.
Questions: N/A
Day 1:
Day 1 felt a lot more like day 0 round two. With an hour of sleep we had a bit of a slow start. We had hunted this area two years previously and had some areas picked out. We hiked up to a high ridge and let loose on the bugle tube and did a bit of glassing. With no response we began moving along the ridges bugleing and glassing any opening we could see. By midday with no responses or fresh sign we were ready to move on to plan B.
Back at the truck getting packed up and ready to move we had a MT Game Warden pull up. He asked for our licenses and told us he was glad we had our archery permits as most out of state hunters forget to buy them. We got to talking about elk hunting and how we hadn’t seen much sign and were surprised based on our experience from last year. Based on our conversation his thought was that two years ago the elk were much more concentrated due to the snow level.
We also discussed the presence of grizzly bears and other animal attacks in the area. Based on his experience he said starving juvenile mountain lions were the biggest culprit of human attacks. After we told him our stalked by two mountain lions story from two years ago he asked why we didn’t shoot them. I said that we didn’t want to get in trouble and he told us that if we are being stalked we wouldn’t get in trouble. If we shot a bear that was in our camp licking peanut butter out of a jar we would have an issue, but otherwise teaching predators to fear humans is something that we need to do more of. I was really surprised that seemed to be advocating firearms and lethal force rather than the classic FWP “bear spray is most effective”.
After an interesting conversation we were on our way to our new area. Once there we started our second big hike with the same results as last time. We did have more encounters in the new area, but unfortunately they were all with side by sides. Thinking we needed to get a big vantage and look for silent elk we planned to get to a high point and for an hour or two at first light.
Lessons Learned: I am no longer worried about shooting near or shooting a stalking/charging predator. Even with plenty of previous rut sign our hunt area seems to be a winter range type of area that is not typically a good area during a warm weather rut.
Questions: Are there any things you do other than glassing, bugeling, and hiking at multiple elevations looking for sign to determine if an area is good or not?