Out of curiosity..... what makes them a 2nds? Is it internal irregularities or just external visual imperfections? Hate to bid in and find out that every round is a flyer.....
they are not really 2nds at all.....just over-runs. No visual imperfections either. I've loaded/shot hundreds and hundreds in all calibers from 243 up to 375 and found zero accuracy problems. Same with their brass offerings.