169 ABLR

[cbynum80]

Just built a 7 PRC. Curious if any one has results with 168 ABLR for mule deer.

 

[Marble]

My .02 with all of the ABLR bullets is they are not worth the time. I have not seen someone get them to shoot well. I'm sure someone has, but I just haven't seen it yet.

You can shoot the 160 AB. That bullet (the AB in general) is a great performer and easy to load for. I forget the BC, but I think it was ~560.

The AB bullet has been a great performer for me in every cartridge I've loaded it for.

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[cbynum80]

My .02 with all of the ABLR bullets is they are not worth the time. I have not seen someone get them to shoot well. I'm sure someone has, but I just haven't seen it yet.

You can shoot the 160 AB. That bullet (the AB in general) is a great performer and easy to load for. I forget the BC, but I think it was ~560.

The AB bullet has been a great performer for me in every cartridge I've loaded it for.

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Agreed on the AB. I load it in my 30-06 180gr and absolutely hammers. Thought the 160 for 7prc might be to close to the edge as far as stability goes.

 

[Marble]

Agreed on the AB. I load it in my 30-06 180gr and absolutely hammers. Thought the 160 for 7prc might be to close to the edge as far as stability goes.

It would depend on what the twist of the gun is and the needed twist for the AB. At that weight, I haven't seen an issue with the 160. Usually when you get up to the 180 grain range you need a little faster twist. With the exception of copper.

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[cbynum80]

It would depend on what the twist of the gun is and the needed twist for the AB. At that weight, I haven't seen an issue with the 160. Usually when you get up to the 180 grain range you need a little faster twist. With the exception of copper.

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[magnum44270]

I’ve had no issues getting any ABLR to shoot, across 4 different calibers. One of the best performing bullets I’ve used,
Up close and at distance. 6mm, 6.5, .284 and 30cal

 

[NorCal 707]

We shoot 168 grain ABLR's out of two 7 mags and one 280 AI. Helluva a bullet! Great on elk and deer. I've heard some folks struggling to get them to shoot but for me the trick was give them jump and don't try to push them too fast. 2900 to 3000 is the node.

 

[cbynum80]

We shoot 168 grain ABLR's out of two 7 mags and one 280 AI. Helluva a bullet! Great on elk and deer. I've heard some folks struggling to get them to shoot but for me the trick was give them jump and don't try to push them too fast. 2900 to 3000 is the node.

Sounds good.

 

[24valve]

I've shot antelope, mule deer, and elk with 175 ABLR's. The would channel is proportional to the size of the animal, as the more tissue the bullet goes through the more it expands. You can see the difference in exit wound diameter on an antelope and elk below (2350 fps antelope and 2200 fps elk impact velocities).

Being a bonded bullet, it penetrates deep and retains weight, but leaves narrow wounds. I've had 3/3 pass throughs on mule deer, but they only left 1.5"-2" diameter permanent wounds (I don't have any good pictures of these unfortunately).

For your 7PRC, I would take a look at 175 ELDM's, 168 TMK's, or another reliable , heavy for caliber, fragmenting bullet to produce larger wounds than an ABLR that occurs within primarily the vitals, rather then on the offside on the animal. Those options are also both significantly cheaper than ABLR's as well.

 

[NorCal 707]

That's exactly the type of performance I've had and exactly what I want. I don't care for a hole the size of my fist. And I also prefer 2 holes vs 1. Bigger holes, more mess for me to clean up. 2 inch wound channel kills shit pretty quick. This is why everyone likes different strokes for different folks. Cool pics on the carcasses!! My elk pic from last year was pretty soupy insides. 618 yds.

 

[Mike D Texas]

I’ve had no issues getting any ABLR to shoot, across 4 different calibers. One of the best performing bullets I’ve used,
Up close and at distance. 6mm, 6.5, .284 and 30cal

Same. 6.5x47, 260AI, 338NMI.

I found purely by accident that my chambers prefer them to be .010” jump rather than a big jump like I’ve read online.

 

[cbynum80]

I've shot antelope, mule deer, and elk with 175 ABLR's. The would channel is proportional to the size of the animal, as the more tissue the bullet goes through the more it expands. You can see the difference in exit wound diameter on an antelope and elk below (2350 fps antelope and 2200 fps elk impact velocities).

Being a bonded bullet, it penetrates deep and retains weight, but leaves narrow wounds. I've had 3/3 pass throughs on mule deer, but they only left 1.5"-2" diameter permanent wounds (I don't have any good pictures of these unfortunately).

For your 7PRC, I would take a look at 175 ELDM's, 168 TMK's, or another reliable , heavy for caliber, fragmenting bullet to produce larger wounds than an ABLR that occurs within primarily the vitals, rather then on the offside on the animal. Those options are also both significantly cheaper than ABLR's as well.

I get why people like the cup and core type bullets but in the chance I hit a bone or have a hard qtr away shot I personally don’t trust them. That’s why I lean more towards the bonded or solid bullets. More toward the bonded. Not knocking cup and core if that’s what you like then rock on I just like penetration and 2 holes myself.

 

[cbynum80]

That's exactly the type of performance I've had and exactly what I want. I don't care for a hole the size of my fist. And I also prefer 2 holes vs 1. Bigger holes, more mess for me to clean up. 2 inch wound channel kills shit pretty quick. This is why everyone likes different strokes for different folks. Cool pics on the carcasses!! My elk pic from last year was pretty soupy insides. 618 yds.

What bullet was that?

 

[cuerro viejo]

Just built a 7 PRC. Curious if any one has results with 168 ABLR for mule deer.

They are a very soft bullet, be gentle when seating. I liked the ABLR in 6.5 but 175eld/175 EH VLD is just less thought process when reloading

 

[Marble]

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With that twist, you could go up to 180 grain size lead based bullets.

If you get the ABLR to shoot well, good for you! It was just finicky to develop a load, so I have written it off and used the AB bullets instead.



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[NorCal 707]

What bullet was that?

Nosler 168 grain ABLR from a 7Mag going 2900 fps at the muzzle. They are pretty hard on antelope if you hit a shoulder, but work well on deer and elk.