~16.5" 6.5 creedmoor?

thinhorn_AK

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Sorry if this has been discussed. What sort of velocities are you all getting with your 6.5 Creedmoor rifles that have shorter barrels( >18")??? And did you choose lighter bullets to make up for lost speed?

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16” tikka. I am at 1500’ sea level generally 80% humidity. TBAC ultra 9. Gets me to 525 yard and I hit 1800 fps per ballistics
 
I lost almost exactly 60 fps going from 24" to 20" on consecutive factory tikka barrels. That's 15fps/inch. Guessing I'd lose another 60-70 going to 16.
 
I don’t find it to be a consistently linear matter, despite what I have been lead to expect.

Factory test barrels are 24”, unless otherwise noted.

My CZ 527 with a 24” factory barrel and my CZ 527 with an 18” PAC-NOR barrel and a 6” suppressor get average velocities of 2530 and 2509 with Hornady 6.5mm Grendel 123-grain ELDMs. The box claims 2580 FPS.

My 16.1” Tikka T3 .223 with a 7” suppressor gets higher velocities than the box velocity for about half the rounds I tested and slightly lower than box velocity for the other half. In one case, I was getting 150-200 FPS more than the box velocity (using 5.56).

My 20” Tikka T3X 6.5 CM with a 6” suppressor gets an average of 2560 FPS as opposed to the box velocity of 2710 with Hornady 140-grain ELDMs.

My 21” Mauser .270 with a 4” suppressor gets an average of 2885 FPS as opposed to the box velocity of 3060.

My 24” FN .270 got an average of 2887 with the same lot of ammo.

My 24” FN .25-06 with a 4” suppressor gets 2908 using Federal Premium 120-grain as opposed to a box velocity of 2980.

All these samples are with at least 20 cartridges from the same lot over the same Garmin on the same range (not the same day).

In short, while I was taught to expect that cutting down your barrel would result in losing 25-50 FPS per inch, my experience has not shown that to be universally the case.

I’d just go shoot a few different loads and see what your rifle shoots best. Then use that.
 
140 ELDM factory ammo averages 2420 fps out of my 16” Tikka.

130 TMK and 4350 reloads were averaging about 2650 fps out of the same gun.
 
Didn't do any load work up at all. Just threw one at it.
16" creed
43.5g norma urp
123g eld-m

2540fps
Hornady lists 44.1gr as max charge for this bullet and Norma URP. 24” velocity of 2950fps.

I’d bet you end up 2650-2700 with your 16” barrel.
 
Hornady lists 44.1gr as max charge for this bullet and Norma URP. 24” velocity of 2950fps.

I’d bet you end up 2650-2700 with your 16” barrel.
Yeah I looked at the book and loaded to 43.5 considering they said 44 was max. I do have the bullet seated further out than book. But not by much. Maybe a powder switch would be beneficial
 
Yeah I looked at the book and loaded to 43.5 considering they said 44 was max. I do have the bullet seated further out than book. But not by much. Maybe a powder switch would be beneficial
Could be the seating depth.
I was under the impression that Norma powders were very progressive in their burn rates. So as pressure builds up closer to max charge they get more efficient.
Compared to single base extruded powders which trend towards more linear velocity changes as charge increases.

But I could be off base, or mis-remembering.
 
I hunt with monos, and went even lighter for caliber than typical for this 6.5cm (16.25” cut factory stainless lite barrel). I shoot a 105 Absolute Hammer Tipped at about 3100 with TAC. My range/non hunting bullet is a 136 Scenar at 2620. Only thing I’ve shot with it is a black bear last spring, but worked great. It’s got functional velocity (with plenty of cushion) to 400, would probably work fine at 500 as well, but that’s more than I need with this rifle.


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2470 with 140 eld-m factory out of a 16” tikka 6.5cm 8800 ft above sea level. Gets me to 500-525 yards going 1800 which is perfect for me. Not many rounds through this rifle I expect a little speed up I would guess
 
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