did you have a opportunity too shoot a cow elk and pass the shot the other two years you didn't get a bull ?I believe its pretty close.. But I believe you get from the elk hunt what you put in it. I live in West Virginia so scouting is really tough. But I eat sleep and breath elk hunting. I am planning for next year before this year ends. I read about elk and tactics that others use. Every fall I try them out. I have tagged 3 bulls in 5 years with a bow and out of all my buddy's that hunts with me I have had the most opportunities. I hunt very aggressive not much sitting and waiting I try to make my own luck. Most guys seem to have the hunt them where there going to be and I stick to hunt elk where they are mentality. My area has declined in elk numbers and the wilderness is getting more people hunting in it. Not to mention the hundreds of stinking moo cows running around!!