But seriously why? Especially if he doesn’t need it, it seems kinda strange to require it, just to prove you are willing to be a little more miserable.
Nice group!
Good question on the longer ranges. I’ve shot steel out to 550 and had a decent hit rate. But I haven’t shot paper at long ranges to be sure it’s not keyholing.
I do understand what you’re saying, apologies if I came off condescending or kind of a jerk. I agree guides aren’t all knowing, but I guess my thought was they do have more experience harvesting bears in real world situations than the average guy on the internet, who could literally say...
I’ve killed 2 interior grizzlies myself. Have a lot of respect for a good friend of mine who has killed 12 brown bears and guided to about 150 more - like me, he also thinks 223’s are amazing, are capable of killing grizzly and brown bears, but should not be the choice of anyone with the means...
When I was about 12, I killed a whitetail with #6 birdshot. 20 gauge. It was actually a bang flop. I thought I had gotten older and wiser but apparently I didn’t. Since it worked that time, it must still be a good idea.
I probably wouldn’t disagree, with the very last being random internet dudes sharing bear cartridge advice when most of them have probably never seen one in the wild.
I’m waiting for someone to book a $30k coastal brown bear hunt that they saved up for 10 years for, and then take a .223 on that hunt. That weeds out the keyboard warriors real quick. 100% on board with the 223 for deer and elk. I’ve taken countless deer with a 223 and 69gr matchking.
Fair question. Probably they are inferring from experience that while heavy for caliber 22’s are good, they likely are not better than the standard fare 270’s etc..that they have learned the hard way are not up to the task.
A deer and a brown bear are not the same. When someone says a 223 is great for deer and elk, but maybe not a brown bear, and then you post a picture of a deer, it seems like you haven’t done the thing.
What objective large sample size evidence is there that those are good brown bear rounds?
I know a person can say anything if it’s on the internet and they don’t t have to follow though. But if you booked a $30k hunt for coastal brown bear and have a good chance of a 10 footer, would you...
I’ll take the word of someone who actually made his living hunting big bears over a random person on the internet who may have never even been in the vicinity of a brown bear.
I’m a huge fan of the 77tmk for deer and elk.
That said, when it comes to brown bears, reducing the experience of seasoned Alaskan guides to “dogma” is a mistake. There’s a reason many of them have minimum calibers. A good friend of mine has owned an outfitting business there since the late...