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  1. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    Exactly! Heck google “nightforce scope won’t hold zero” or “nightforce scope problems”. I think NF scopes are incredible, but plenty of internet experts whose rifle setup and shooting skills are unknown think otherwise.
  2. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    Knowing it wouldn’t hold zero
  3. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    So either you thought they would hold zero when the issue was rectified at the factory, or you knew they wouldn’t because leupold are junk and don’t hold zero?
  4. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    Did you test them when they came back?
  5. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    I’m not saying you, but this thread is getting more bizarre every hour. A model 70 with a vari-x iii was/is a go to top shelf rig for a long time even among a ton of Alaskan outfitters I know and is what I used on both of my Alaska trips. Every client and guide on both of my trips had a...
  6. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    Your logic does make sense if you are telling people the scope won’t hold zero when you sell it. Maybe you did that, but I can’t imagine anyone would pay much for a scope that you advertise as not holding zero.
  7. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    This is only part of the equation though. If it’s all over the place on subsequent trips, is there an issue with rings? Does the shooter not know how to read wind? Etc… At a minimum you’d need to swap in a different scope, repeat the same tests, and if that one was spot on then put the...
  8. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    You’re the one trusting random internet guys. While I do put some credence to match results and decades of elite Military unit choices, that was my actual initial point. My real world experience has been that leupold scopes are able to retain zero. Well you’re wrong about how much I get out...
  9. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    Did the special forces of the world’s most advanced Military use Pintos for 25 years? Do professional race car drivers use them?
  10. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    I’m not hurt at all. You seem hurt that most people trust the choices of pro shooters and elite military units more than they trust the word of a couple random internet guys. The “tests” here are information, but the veracity of that info is unknown. I don’t doubt some have failed. But how...
  11. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    The issue people take is that last part. Junk gear. You don’t like it/had a bad experience. That’s fine. But leupold has more match wins of every type of long range shooting over the years than any other brand. That doesn’t happen with junk. I like leupold. They’ve performed great for...
  12. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    That doesn’t look great, but a number of things could cause that. I guess after you pull it, do the exact same test with the replacement and compare. But even that would just be a sample size of one.
  13. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    It’s less than perfect but much better than “some random internet guys say leupold scopes won’t hold zero”. With no empirical evidence of their setups or the myriad of other variables that could be at play. They shoot long range and are tough on equipment. I’d trust socom using leupolds for...
  14. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    So military snipers and professional long range shooters know less than you. Got it.
  15. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    True but the more elite units tend to be a little better about it. And even pro PRS shooters in 2024 prefer scopes that don’t t hold zero I guess.
  16. J

    Is it all Leopolds

    I’ve been running mark 4’s over 20 years with no issues at all to 1200 yards. Worked ok for military snipers as well. But they don’t hold zero. Right.
  17. J

    Mule Deer over Money

    I actually agree with your thought process on this one. I had to make this decision myself this year. I had a hard to get tag in a great area. Was hunting without a guide. 2nd morning of a 14 day hunt I have a 250 yard shot on a 370 bull. I took him and was thrilled. I’m much more of a...
  18. J

    6mm and .223/5.56 ILLEGAL for big game in Alaska!

    If you have 77tmk’s or similar, you are good.
  19. J

    12A east Arizona Muzzleloader

    I can’t help you, but judging by last year’s buck you seem to know what you’re doing generally 😀
  20. J

    How much to tip your hunting guide?

    That’s why sheep hunts cost $70k. If they need to charge $80k to pay people properly, they should do that.

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