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  1. Ozarkansas

    Howa Mini in 22 ARC

    I’ve seen what 80-90 grain 6mm bullets can do, I’d have no issues throwing the same amount of lead with an even higher SD at a whitetail.
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    45-70 Subsonic load data

    I’ve run 525 hardcast lead bullets with between 8.5-11.0 grains of unique and they work just fine. Velocity is around 800-1000 FPS depending on the exact powder charge
  3. Ozarkansas

    22 ARC or 6ARC

    Maybe I’m a weenie when it comes to following rules, but regardless of the likelihood of getting caught, I wouldn’t hunt with an illegal weapon. Just like I wouldn’t duck hunt without a plugged shotgun or use sabots in a muzzleloader in a state that didn’t allow them. I feel like it’s a...
  4. Ozarkansas

    22 ARC or 6ARC

    I’d lean towards 6mm because I already have a lot of 6mm components, and because it’s legal for big game in more states (including elk in my state). Aside from those personal factors, I feel like the rounds so similar that my only other consideration would be which one becomes more...
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    Slug vs Buck shot

    Tungsten Super Shot, it’s the ultra-high density (and ultra high price) non-toxic shot that allows guys to shoot #10 shot for turkeys or goose hunt with #7s and kill at long range. The navy has also tested a canister load for their 5” guns using the BB size shot, it’ll kill kamikaze boats is you...
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    Slug vs Buck shot

    @JDBAK This has been talked about before on here but I imagine you want whichever option is going to give you the best chance of instantly incapacitating a bear, That means generally a brain or spine shot. I’d be confident that my TSS buckshot loads can do that with energy to spare, and inside...
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    Slug vs Buck shot

    @JDBAK with these small pellets Idk if there’s much of a temporary stretch cavity, but the primary stopping mechanism seems to be “break every single bone in the animal”. Soft tissue damage has been pretty minimal except when bone is hit, and then it’s the bones themselves that are doing most of...
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    Slug vs Buck shot

    I have zero experience in grizzly country, but my experience with TSS “buckshot” loads using BB size shot has convinced me that they are one of the best options for stopping an animal at close range. I can get 49 pellets in a 20 gauge hull. Any one of those will pass all the way through both...
  9. Ozarkansas

    Questions for Form and other "small caliber for big game" folks

    Speaking only to the 6mm discussion, I haven’t seen a .243 partition stay in the annimal after at least a half dozen deer and a big pig, I imagine monolithic copper bullets also generally exit. In regular cup-and-core and bonded bullets I’ve seen that it’s about 50/50 whether it exits or not...
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    Questions for Form and other "small caliber for big game" folks

    In scenario 1, I think the most objectively correct answer is you should grab whichever one provides the best chance of a 1st round vital hit. A 6mm double lung is much better than a .30 gut shot or miss. It may be that at 500 yards you don’t shoot the 6mm that much better, but a lot of the guys...
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    Voter turnout

    I know a lot of very progressive people and you’d be surprised how many of them stayed home due to the whole Gaza thing. It’s a BIG deal with a lot of the far left and seems to have kept a lot of them either at home or at least not voting for Kamala
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    Questions for Form and other "small caliber for big game" folks

    I’ve always seen them argue that straight, deep penetration is important- since you can only stop an animal with a CNS hit or by breaking some major bones, something that follows a predictable path all the way through the animal allows you to take shots at really steep angles (such as charging...
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    It hasn’t gotten talked about much on this thread but the .223 kill thread has lots of discussion regarding non-tipped match bullets failing to expand. My uncle had this happen multiple times with his AR on pigs as well. So at least thats a type of bullet failure that we all seem to agree does...
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    6mm /.243 hunting success on Big Game

    My dad used a 6mm remington 722 as his primary deer rifle for about 3 decades (until he got a suppressed .308). My brother and I killed our first few deer with that gun and 100 grain partitions, it’s a great combo!
  15. Ozarkansas

    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    I think it depends on the game. Most of us who want reliable blood trails are hunting whitetail in the east. In my experience it’s pretty easy to get all 3 on a whitetail, especially at typical Eastern Whitetail ranges. I think it’s a lot harder to ensure on something like an elk, especially...
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    My sample size is merely a few dozen deer and hogs, but neither myself nor my immediate family has had zero blood when there is an exit wound with expanding bullets, ever. So yeah maybe that sample size is too small but the only times I’ve seen no blood are when there’s no exit and the deer is...
  17. Ozarkansas

    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    I’ve intentionally aimed for the shoulder before, but I hate losing one or both shoulders so I’d personally rather just put a bullet behind the shoulder and be confident that there will be enough blood to track it. I’ve also headshot pigs when I was in really nasty stuff but never deer.
  18. Ozarkansas

    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    I’m 100% in agreement with you. I hunt the Ozarks and the areas that haven’t been burned in a couple of years can have visibility of less than 6’. I also bowhunt and consider myself a proficient blood trailer, so I’ll take a 50 yard trail with blood over a 15 yard trail with no blood- because...
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    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    I’ve just always wanted a quarterbore, and the 9.3s have always interested me because of their history as big game cartridges. Plus I already have a .223, .243, 6.5x55, and 45/70. So I’d want a different caliber than any of those
  20. Ozarkansas

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    This is starting to drift outside the original conversation of “would you use a .223 or 6mm caliber cartridge for a high dollar hunt” to “would you use a .223 remington on a high dollar hunt”. Personally I would not. Depending on the type of hunt, I’d use it as an excuse to buy a 9.3x62 or fast...

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