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  1. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    Yeah... the fact that it's a stigma here is unfortunate. You and I both use copper monos, so I think that changes the game for us with respect to getting all of the benefits from the 6.5 cartridges. From what I've read, need cartridges that start fast and stay fast, guaranteeing the best...
  2. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    Eh... I've been discussing the possible implications of ingesting lead via game meat the entire time. Not sure what you mean by this. Whether or not the lead ingested is inorganic or organic is simply a nuance of the conversation. It has been mentioned in such a way that promotes the idea that...
  3. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    I think you may be slightly off here. From what I’ve read, organic lead is much more easily absorbed through the skin (via touch), and inorganic less so (which is not to say that’s inorganic lead is not absorbable at all). “Organic forms of lead are extremely dangerous, as they are absorbed...
  4. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    Regarding that last question, I have yet to find such a study, which is why I still err on the side of caution. Apologies for derailing the thread a bit. I'll keep it on topic moving forward. PreadatorSlayer's comment irked me enough to respond, and I should've known better. Between this...
  5. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    It's certainly alarming. And these metals build up in the system over time, so for those of us eating venison and game birds for a decent portion of the year (if not throughout the entire year), there could be certainly be cause for concern and the need for further research. I also understand...
  6. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    I have read several posts making this claim now, but none yet have provided a source. I'd really like something more concrete than "I heard it on a podcast" (not that you said this, but others have). Are you able to cite a source for this? I'm being sincere. Someone mentioned having to eat a...
  7. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    Getting back on topic, I spent several hours last night reading the "223" thread. It was pretty enlightening, and much of the conventional wisdom regarding caliber and energy required seems to have been proven wrong. If I were to go back to using lead core bullets, I'd be grabbing a T3X in 223...
  8. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    Tell me more about the billion dollar “bird group” cartel. My links cite peer-reviewed research across many universities and institutions. If that doesn’t satisfy your scientific standards, I’d love to read the research you’ve conducted.
  9. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    This is such a weird take. The anti-science movement has really become insufferable, especially when its proponents are so cocksure of themselves. As far as lead is concerned, it's been known for years that it's harmful when ingested, and the lead fragments in bullets are bio-available, meaning...
  10. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    I'm definitely open minded about it and willing to learn more. Do you happen to know of any peer-reviewed research on this? Thanks.
  11. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    I would agree. The copper monos seem to call for light-for-caiber at higher velocities, whereas traditional bullets seem to work best with heavy-for-caliber bullets at lower or normal velocities. I've always gravitated towards copper due to fears of lead contamination, especially with respect to...
  12. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    Nice! You selling your 280 AI?
  13. Rick M.

    Lapua Brass Store - Legitimate Site?

    280 AI and 7mm-08
  14. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    You weren't kidding...
  15. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    Holy smokes! 128 pages!! I thought the "creepy experienced in the backcountry" was heavy reading. I'll check it out.
  16. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    Perhaps I need to be educated on that. I've always read that a minimum of 1500 ft-lbs is needed for elk, and around 1000 ft-lbs. Is this not the case?
  17. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    What's the impact energy at 400yds for the 6CM vs the 6.5CM with say, the 90g LRX and 127g LRX respectively? No worries if you don't have the data readily available. Edit: I found a chart from Barnes. Looks like the 6.5CM has about 100 ft.-lbs more energy, but lacks that 2200 velocity to...
  18. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    Form's got me digging into the 6mm CM now. Seems like a great choice for deer and antelope when using copper monos.
  19. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    Same for me. I'm using Firefox.
  20. Rick M.

    Struggling to see the point of 6.5's

    Thanks, Form. Always appreciate your wisdom. That software looks pretty nifty. For copper monos specifically, would the 6.5 PRC be a better consideration alongside the 280AI? (For staying above that 2200 mark for terminal performance)?
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