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  1. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    Well it usually carries more weight when it comes from someone who actually has a well reasoned argument. If I ever change my mind on these tests, it's certainly not going to be because of anything you posted.
  2. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    Wow, I'm convinced. Great argument!
  3. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    Sure, I'll concede that point. You changed my mind. And while your initial principle stands, that doesn't mean these tests are actually good at identifying poorly designed scopes. I do believe volume matters but perhaps not in the way I initially thought.
  4. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    You're correct. Poor phrasing on my part.
  5. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    I don't disagree, but you're discounting volume. How many VX3s are in the wild vs SWFA 6Xs? I don't know production numbers, nor do I really care to, I'm way deeper into this than I planned to be. 10 times as many...probably more but it doesn't really matter. But let's just say a 1% failure...
  6. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    That's the rub. Testing one scope doesn't necessarily tell you much about QC. Anyone can put out a lemon. It happens. It may be rare but it happens, especially if we take into account volume. Some manufacturers produce much, much more than others. That would by default mean more bad units given...
  7. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    I agree, people should be testing their own gear. It's really the only way to know how it's going to perform.
  8. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    I'm on a conference call...multi-tasking.
  9. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    I get what you're trying to say but I don't think it's a very good analogy to these scope tests. The fact is that hundreds if not thousands of people have burned up those light duty trucks doing exactly what you described, that's how we know it's a bad idea to put a 10000lb load on a ranger...
  10. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    Lol. If you say so. It's a mechanical device and anything can happen. A sample of 1 means nothing. But by all means. You do you.
  11. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    I'm suggesting that a single test of a single scope tells you nothing other than how that particular scope performs. You can't infer that one model or manufacturer is better or worse than another based on one test. It's not statiscally significant in any way whatsoever.
  12. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    Because they want an easy button. Someone said its good based on a single tested scope so it must be good...right. A single test of one example really means nothing.
  13. Ratbeetle

    Why cant people accept the fact that some people dont need a drop tested scope?

    I can appreciate what the tests are trying to accomplish, but for me I just don't see much value in a test of one particular example when that isn't the example I'm going to be using. Run 100 through the same battery with the same results and you have something. Of course I get that's not...
  14. Ratbeetle

    Exercise Equipment

    Maybe not ideal, but I do 45-60 mins low intensity sessions on mine a few times a week.
  15. Ratbeetle

    Exercise Equipment

    Definitely a love hate relationship with the one in my garage.
  16. Ratbeetle

    New hunters. Cheap vs expensive? What do I actually need and what are realistic expectations?

    Hell I'd go a bit further and say there is no need for an expensive combo no matter your experience level. It's simply a want. I've been hunting for close to 30 years now and could buy any rifle, custom or otherwise, that i wanted. My hunting rifles are ruger americans. They fit me well and...
  17. Ratbeetle

    Branson, MO

    Cool. I live in Branson, moved back to the area just about 2 years ago after a stint in CO.
  18. Ratbeetle

    supressor ready and caliber suggestions

    125 yards. Ruger american predator, 18" barrel in 308.
  19. Ratbeetle

    WTS 3 Rivers Tomahawk Longbow

    Bringing this back to life. Still for sale.
  20. Ratbeetle

    WTS Ruger American Stainless 7mm-08

    Sold.

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