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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    Well my 22 ARC project just got sidelined by a so called gunsmith destroying my upper trying to remove the barrel nut. So I bought some 73 gr. ELDM bullets to run in one of my 223/5.56 rifles. Thinking a 20 inch 1-7 twist AR will get me nearly 2900 fps with the 73 grain bullet using Levrolution...
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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    Started at 2920 using Levrevrolution out of a 22 inch barrel and impact around 150 yards. Well over 2200 fps impact.
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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    That was the second deer I used the Hornady BTHP 75 on. The first deer was hit just behind the shoulder, the bullet traveled upwards a bit, tumbled, threw the jacket from below the cannelure through the far shoulder blade where it was sticking out and the rest of the bullet went through the hide...
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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    Is that the velocity window we are looking for?
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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    I just finished packaging the deer and frying up the tenderloins. Tasty. Found a piece of jacket in the backstrap the bullet went through on it's way vertically out of the deer. The lack of damage is hard to believe. The 75 grain BTHP not traveling in a reasonably straight line, in one case...
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    Well I used a few 75 grain Hornady BTHP's on a meat buck this year. Cannelured version. Not impressed. First shot entrance. Quartering away. Exit. bullet traveled up and left. slightly damaged shoulder blade. Went down very satisfyingly but got right back up and was making good time...
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    6ARC and 6.5 Grendel 105 and 123 gr, Hornady BTHP for deer

    My 6 is a straight necked down Grendel case so no factory ammo. The only thing I have shot with it are one coyote and a number of raccoons. 58 gr. Vmax going 3200 fps. My fun practice load is the 105 gr. Hornady BTHP going right at 2600 fps. They hit so close together I don't have to resight in...
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    Well if you have no idea how far your bullet is being moved by the wind you shouldn't shoot. There are many charts but the trick is pegging wind velocity. I never said I could tell the wind inside of 1 mph. That airhead has a reading comprehension problem.
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    6ARC and 6.5 Grendel 105 and 123 gr, Hornady BTHP for deer

    I typically load 120 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips which so far have been good in every respect. I picked up a bunch of 123 gr. Hornady BTHP on sale and planned on using them for general purpose truck gun and plinking. They shoot pretty good in my rifle and I expect them to kill hogs or coyotes I...
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    Gee are you going out of your way to prove my point? A 2 inch per mph of wind and a 4mph error in wind estimation gives you an 8 inch impact error. Since your error can cover either direction that is 16 inches of guess you have working against you. The point is no one can gauge wind exactly and...
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    The buck you shot at with the 300 was on the ridgeline, you had no way to tell where that bullet would land if you missed. An ethically poor shot.
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    Yes I have shot in the wind. If the wind is strong enough to push my bullet more than 1 inch per MPH I don't shoot. When shooting "stuff" at longer distances, especially if there is any wind seeing a small caliber bullets impact is pretty tough. the smaller the bullet the tougher it is. I lived...
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    Inside of a 6 inch circle, at any range you will take the shot. I like 4 inches myself. However there is no group when shooting at deer.
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    The point being the recoil from either round will not effect where my rounds impact. Yes if I were firing 100 shot strings the 308 would become tiresome before the 223. I can shoot under MOA groups easily with either for the first 40 rounds. When it comes to hunting deer recoil with either is a...
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    If you are not good enough to know where your bullet is going when you pull the trigger you should practice more or shoot within the boundaries of your shooting abilities, the point where you are sure the first shot is going to hit where you plan on it hitting.
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    What you are saying is spotting impacts is important enough in your shooting that recovery of the game animal shot at could depend on it. Spotting impacts even with a light recoiling rifle is not 100 percent possible with every shot. If spotting impacts was so important to me in that respect I...
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    A 300 Ultramag does put out significant recoil. In your case the question becomes why if you have used that rifle would you consider the recoil of a 308 any issue at all. I asked a question and you have failed to come up with a quantifiable reason the recoil from a 308 is a serious negative. I...
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    The barrel, gas block , bolt, gas tube are in the mail. Waiting impatiently.
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    Yes the animal gets a vote. If you are shooting at an animal far enough away that time of flight is long enough for the animal to move enough to take the impact out of the vital zone you are shooting at than you are shooting too far. One should only take shots at game animals where the variables...
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    .223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

    Well I don't shoot past the point where the wind will move my bullet more than 1 inch per MPH or beyond the point my bullet is going less than 2000 fps. What you are saying is you are willing to take shots beyond your personal capabilities. If you don't know within 6 inches of where your bullet...

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