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  1. Jake Larsen

    Looking for 600 yard deer/elk rifle. Recommendations?

    The trade off is shootability in a lightweight mountain style rifle. Most people develop some really bad habits if they spend a lot of time shooting heavy recoiling light weight rifles. I think the reason these guys hammer away at this conversation is because it helps people understand bullet...
  2. Jake Larsen

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    This is exactly what I suspect as well. I do wonder if certain projectiles create higher odds of this happening. Hard blows to the chest on a human can stop your heart (ask how I know haha), which is clearly a CNS disruption that’s got nothing to do with tissue trauma. I wonder if the physics of...
  3. Jake Larsen

    Looking for 600 yard deer/elk rifle. Recommendations?

    It’s all about adequate wound channel to kill the target species. For this you need two things: penetration to the vitals, and enough tissue damage once the projectile is there. The line is when you no longer have one of these things. The reason the .223 77TMK crowd is so vocal, is they have...
  4. Jake Larsen

    What vanes do you all use?

    AAE Hybrid 2.6 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  5. Jake Larsen

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    No offense taken! I’m only pressing for clarity to help move the conversation in a productive manner. I agree with you on every point made so far. IMO there’s others that I think would agree with you also, if we can frame the conversation in such a way that the fudd/lore is out of the picture...
  6. Jake Larsen

    Looking for 600 yard deer/elk rifle. Recommendations?

    I’ve had a somewhat similar experience with being rigid in my thinking with what’s necessary in order to kill effectively. Lightbulb moment for me was when I talked to my grandpa who killed 43 elk in his life. Every one with a .243 with Nosler partitions. Pair that with the ease of shooting...
  7. Jake Larsen

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    Unless the extra penetration is required in order to hit vitals. In which case they would kill more effectively. I think we agree, I just see the sticking point for some of the members who get hung up on this. It becomes a question of if the extra penetration is really ever needed on the game...
  8. Jake Larsen

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    This. There’s very obviously some serious energy transfer occurring. The redneck description would be “it blows them off their feet”. I’m curious to see if Form would argue that the only factor for killing in these scenarios is still bleeding from tissue damage. These type of bullets don’t...
  9. Jake Larsen

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    So it’s fair to say that there are other bullet types that have merit when penetration is very important? I think this is the sticking point for a lot of people who disagree with Form. It often seems like the argument goes so far that there’s no merit whatsoever in a controlled expansion...
  10. Jake Larsen

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    I’m not sure I disagree with Form either. I’m just looking for clarity in the thinking/theory. One way to do critical thinking is to push the idea to its outer limit, and see at what point/if it falls apart. I 100% agree that tipped match bullets kill effectively. I personally don’t care for...
  11. Jake Larsen

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    I saw that on some of the 6 or 7 whitetails ive seen shot with a 45-70 marlin lever action. One other was running, and piled up in a heap. Others died very very quickly. I realize it’s not a massive sample size. But it was enough for me to corroborate the choice of those type of rounds for...
  12. Jake Larsen

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    It’s pretty simply with a bow. Bleeding. Thats it. There’s a lot more physics going on when a projectile is moving at very high speed. Thus the debate Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  13. Jake Larsen

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    This is what I suspect. Something about the slowish moving very heavy object impact creates cns disruption. It’s a very different looking wound channel than a controlled expansion bonded bullet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  14. Jake Larsen

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    Im genuinely curious what you think about this: I’ve seen a handful of deer sized animals killed with a 45-70 with 250gr solids. Bullet passes right through, and creates a wound channel about 1 1/2” wide, not a lot of tissue damage. A 77 TMK creates WAY more visible damage. But every animal I’ve...
  15. Jake Larsen

    TBAC Ultra 7 or Scythe Ti?

    I like it for the length, but there’s definitely some loss in recoil reduction. The weight difference is so minimal Its a non factor. I’d recommend shooting it both ways and decide for yourself. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  16. Jake Larsen

    TBAC Ultra 7 or Scythe Ti?

    I’ve got both. If I had to choose, I’d keep the scythe. The weight difference is pretty outstanding in person. Function of the can is hard for me to tell the difference. I’ve got the Hanson Bros end cap for the scythe as well, so there’s additional options to make it even shorter/lighter...
  17. Jake Larsen

    WTS Kifaru Kutthroat, Claymore 2 CB

    I’ve got a Kifaru Kutthroat pack for sale. Regular stays, size M belt, regular/short shoulder straps. It’s been used for summer backpacking trips for the last couple years. Pack is in great shape, there’s photos of any signs of wear I could find. SOLD I’ve also got a CB Claymore 2 that ran as...
  18. Jake Larsen

    Scam?

    Haha sounds great. I’d settle for spamming their mailboxes with packages of dog excrement. It’s not hard to string them along until they give out a legit address Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  19. Jake Larsen

    Scam?

    Seems to be their MO. Along with copying legit answers from other forums and replying to appropriate threads so they seem to check out at first glance. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  20. Jake Larsen

    Scam?

    Yes he’s a scammer! Report him on whatever platform that’s on Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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