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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    I don't know if you've looked at the first few pages of this thread, but a user posted a series of pictures showing a .223 (77gr TMK) doing tremendously more damage than a larger caliber round. The whole point of this thread is that bullet design matters a whole lot more than caliber as far as...
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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    I agree on all points(y)
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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    if by many states you mean 10/50 states, sure. But the others (that allow rifle hunting) are just fine with .223. And the reason those states don’t let you use a .223 on deer is outdated laws that are a reaction to idiots wounding deer with .223 FMJ, shallowly penetrating varmint rounds, or some...
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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    Thank you. To be clear, internal damage on larger animals is still massive (relative to damage on smaller animals) even if the exit wound is a lot smaller?
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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    The TMK never fails to impress me. I have a few questions if you don’t mind answering: 1) How large are TMK entry/exit wounds, typically speaking? I’d guess around the 2-3” zone based on pics posted in this thread. Is the actual wound channel about the same size, or even larger? 2) Do you...
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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    When you say “super tough deep penetrating bullets”, are you mainly referring to monolothics like TSX/GMX or also bonded softpoints like 62gr fusion/gold dot, TBBC, RA556B, etc.? Before looking at this thread and other 77gr TMK threads I was under the impression that the bonded loads were the...
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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    For those of you that have used the 77gr TMK on game and have found that it matches or even surpasses the performance of far larger calibers - why do you think that is? I'd assume that rapid, consistent fragmentation plays a pretty big role.
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    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    When you say less TSC damage, is the actual wound channel smaller? I was under the impression that TSC was essentially the same as the permanent cavity in violently fragmenting bullets like the TMK.
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