"You can't use a gun for self-protection..."

[260madman]

And now you see that it isn't a gun problem, it's a societal violence problem. That is where the focus needs to be. Unfortunately too many cherry pick one thing (guns) to cling to.

Not a lot of aspiring rappers in Canada. “Lil Maple Sap was turnin his life around and gun get he GED”. Won’t hear someone’s mama say that up there.

 

[Texasbuckeye]

Its at this point in the debate where i would usually say, “well my dad can beat up your dad”…….

 

[rtkbowhunter]

In mankinds history, no form of government moved from repressive to less repressive. It moved towards more a more repressive state. That is governments natural evolution. The FF's understood this. They had first hand knowledge of a malevolent ruling authority, hence a nation born out of a violent revolution, pitting upstart colonials against the greatest military on earth at the time.

The Federalist Papers give the reason and thought behind the 2A. Spoiler alert. It wasn't about hunting.

I'd like to think that if there was ever a full out and out ban on AR15's and such, that there would be a huge outcry of civil disobedience and resusal to submit, but after seeing how compliant the citizens were during COVID, I'm guessing most would grumble and then roll over like frightened puppies in submission.

 

[JJJ]

We’ve got 2 Canadians debating here about Americans constitutional rights.
It’s a non starter.

 

[isItFallYet]

We’ve got 2 Canadians debating here about Americans constitutional rights.
It’s a non starter.

Shouldn’t they be busy supplying us with maple syrup or something?

 

[scattergun]

Not a lot of aspiring rappers in Canada. “Lil Maple Sap was turnin his life around and gun get he GED”. Won’t hear someone’s mama say that up there.

What are you talking about?

Plenty of solid rappers there, and one of the most successful in history is Canadian.

By the way, that whistle was so unsubtle that my dogs started howling, and they can’t even read.

 

[Historybuff]

I can almost hear the chains jingle when some Canadians give their opinion. I have unalienable rights given to me by God. Your opinion and unmoral laws just dont matter. It's hard for me to understand the thought of giving up rights to a government.

 

[Historybuff]

I absolutely love maple syrup by the way. Thanks!

 

[260madman]

SCOTUS just ruled. In favor of Concealed Carry and NY can pound sand. I can’t wait for the Twatter comments. Pearl clutching should be epic.

 

[Wvroach]

SCOTUS just ruled. In favor of Concealed Carry and NY can pound sand. I can’t wait for the Twatter comments. Pearl clutching should be epic.

I just saw this

In 6-3 ruling, court strikes down New York's concealed-carry law - SCOTUSblog

This article was updated on June 23 at 4:06 p.m. The Supreme Court on Thursday struck down a New York handgun-licensing law that required New Yorkers who want to carry a handgun in public to show a special need to defend themselves. The 6-3 ruling, written by Justice Clarence Thomas, is the court’

www.scotusblog.com

I can't find the written opinion yet, I really hope it is worded to make every state a shall issue at the minimum if not constitutional carry.

 

[260madman]

What are you talking about?

Plenty of solid rappers there, and one of the most successful in history is Canadian.

By the way, that whistle was so unsubtle that my dogs started howling, and they can’t even read.

 

[scattergun]

I understood the attempt at humour, but it’s still dogwhistly as hell.

 

[freshta]

On the other hand, Canada’s rate of gun deaths is less than a sixth of the US’s.

I just checked….Canada’s population in 2022 is 38 million, the US is 332 million. Factor that into your equation.

 

[scattergun]

I just checked….Canada’s population in 2022 is 38 million, the US is 332 million. Factor that into your equation.

“Rate” means per-capita, friend.

 

[RS_Non-Res]

“Rate” means per-capita, friend.

No worries there, freshta is zap's doppleganger.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I understood the attempt at humour, but it’s still dogwhistly as hell.

Only liberals use words like “dog whistle”. I guess you’re Canadian so that makes sense.

 

[scattergun]

It’s a pretty common expression. What’s the reactionary equivalent, then?

 

[thinhorn_AK]

It’s a pretty common expression. What’s the reactionary equivalent, then?

It’s WAS a common expression for liberals to use when they were crying about Trump. Glad to see that it’s still alive and well in Canada.

 

[scattergun]

Cool, keep flailing away at that strawman.

 

[BjornF16]

Being in the medical field, I hear stories and actually have dealt with some folks who come to the US for medical care.

The medical system in Canada is provincial, meaning each province makes its own rules. Some are better than others, but almost universally the wait times are silly long, and wait times when it comes to cancer treatments can be life and death. Surgical wait times are mostly ridiculous, and specialist wait times can border on months or longer. So couple a several month wait to see a specialist with longer wait times for surgery or treatments not being available, and you get a not so good health system for the user. Sure it can look good on paper, but you also don't have flocks of foreign royalty going to canada for health care like the US does. That says a lot.

They also ration up there A LOT. Many treatments are just not offered due to money or ability to be given, or what would be considered heroic measures for a condition. The govt def has a say in your care, which again is the exact opposite of here in the US where the patient can control their own health.

Being in the eye field specifically, I know for a fact cataract surgery in some provinces is limited to X number per year paid by the govt, and once that number is reached the doctors either stop doing surgery and wait till the following year to resume, or they go to a cash pay system (if they are not outlawed, some provinces outlaw this, as told to me by a canadian ophthalmologist) and can do "refractive lens exchanges" instead of cataract surgery if you can afford it. It isn't cheap, but it can bypass the line to wait.

In canada the health system is paid for by taxes. Everyone pays taxes up there, they aren't terrible for most, but average between 15-29% with the middle being around 23-24%. But compared tot he US where only the top 50% earners pay anything in federal tax and the bottom half take from the tax revenue system, the canadian tax system seems a little more fair. So there is that....

This is precisely what I experienced in the 3 years I lived in the UK...experienced firsthand as an exchange officer at an RAF base living under NHS, and watched it unfold with the families of my squadron mates.