Wife's Grandpa's M1 Carbine Help

[CHSD]

I don't know hardly anything about M1 Carbines. My wife's grandpa passed away and I am curious if anyone can tell me about this gun. It's the only picture I got from them.

 

[2531usmc]

Looks like the original stock was replaced with a commercial stock

 

[Pony Soldier]

I remember when you could buy them for $25. Gov't surplus. Ammo was cheap too. I just couldn't come up with a use for one.

 

[flathead#2]

I shoulda bought every one i could find back in the day.

 

[Hnthrdr]

They are fun! I run around my in-laws ranch with one, little to no kick and the iron sights are accurate on the one I use it’s a GM made one from 1944 I think.

 

[def90]

Can't tell you anything at all from that pic other than it's been "sporterized" with the commercial buttstock.

There were several war time makers and many more commercial/repro manufacturers. Would need detailed photos of all the parts and any markings to be able to tell you anything about it.

 

[CHSD]

Can't tell you anything at all from that pic other than it's been "sporterized" with the commercial buttstock.

There were several war time makers and many more commercial/repro manufacturers. Would need detailed photos of all the parts and any markings to be able to tell you anything about it.

I'll try to get some tomorrow. Does the "sporterizing" stock hurt it's value? I'd assume it does but know very little.

 

[NealS02]

It is a super fun rifle. I wouldn’t dream of selling mine. Give us more information when you can.

 

[DoubleAron]

It’s like a classic car, all original in good shade is better than restored with “better than original” parts.

They are super fun little rifles. Like a 9mm long rifle.

 

[Wolfshead]

What caliber is it?
It looks kinda like a 10/22 in a carbine stock?

 

[Paladin]

It will be .30 cal (carbine). You can look under (behind) the rear sight for the manufacturer. If it happens to be a Rockola, or Winchester, I believe those were maybe the rare ones but somebody can correct me. They removed the bayonet lug as well. It looks like they did a good job with it and will be fun to shoot but it loses a good bit of the collector value being sporterized.

 

[def90]

I'll try to get some tomorrow. Does the "sporterizing" stock hurt it's value? I'd assume it does but know very little.

Yes it does, that’s assuming it’s a collectible gun to begin with. Like stated before there have been many repros on the market over the last 70years, if it’s a repro then it’s not worth a ton to begin with.

 

[CHSD]

Here's a few more photos if anyone would be willing to tell me a little more about it.

 

[NealS02]

Let me be very clear I am a hobbyist and not an expert by any means. From what I can gather looking at the photos it is an Inland Division manufactured rifle and has the correct .30 carbine stamp in front of the bolt. This indicates it is a legit WWII service rifle. It is stamped on the barrel as year 1944 production. There are a few features that support a gun from this year and one that throws me off a bit.

The part that throws me off is that it has a flat bolt from what I can tell, which means pre-1943, but then has an adjustable sight and what looks like a flip safety. These are both features I associate with later models and consistent with the 1944 stamp on the barrel. Maybe someone else can clear this up and touch on the stock, but that is about all I can tell you. Inland is what I own and a pretty common manufacturer. With original stock I would guess somewhere around $1500 in value (this is a super rough guess), and not sure what stock you have on it from the pictures and how that would affect value. I’m sure this helps some, but sorry I cannot tell you more definitively.

 

[CHSD]

Let me be very clear I am a hobbyist and not an expert by any means. From what I can gather looking at the photos it is an Inland Division manufactured rifle and has the correct .30 carbine stamp in front of the bolt. This indicates it is a legit WWII service rifle. It is stamped on the barrel as year 1944 production. There are a few features that support a gun from this year and one that throws me off a bit.

The part that throws me off is that it has a flat bolt from what I can tell, which means pre-1943, but then has an adjustable sight and what looks like a flip safety. These are both features I associate with later models and consistent with the 1944 stamp on the barrel. Maybe someone else can clear this up and touch on the stock, but that is about all I can tell you. Inland is what I own and a pretty common manufacturer. With original stock I would guess somewhere around $1500 in value (this is a super rough guess), and not sure what stock you have on it from the pictures and how that would affect value. I’m sure this helps some, but sorry I cannot tell you more definitively.

Thank you! I appreciate your insight!

 

[Fatcamp]

I shoulda bought every one i could find back in the day.

That and knucklehead engines I'd be set.

 

[def90]

Let me be very clear I am a hobbyist and not an expert by any means. From what I can gather looking at the photos it is an Inland Division manufactured rifle and has the correct .30 carbine stamp in front of the bolt. This indicates it is a legit WWII service rifle. It is stamped on the barrel as year 1944 production. There are a few features that support a gun from this year and one that throws me off a bit.

The part that throws me off is that it has a flat bolt from what I can tell, which means pre-1943, but then has an adjustable sight and what looks like a flip safety. These are both features I associate with later models and consistent with the 1944 stamp on the barrel. Maybe someone else can clear this up and touch on the stock, but that is about all I can tell you. Inland is what I own and a pretty common manufacturer. With original stock I would guess somewhere around $1500 in value (this is a super rough guess), and not sure what stock you have on it from the pictures and how that would affect value. I’m sure this helps some, but sorry I cannot tell you more definitively.

All of these rifles were rebuilt/rearsenaled after the war so it’s common to see parts from various eras to be mixed together on one rifle.

This one went through a rearsenal and then was probably picked up by the OPs grandfather as a surplus rifle that was for sale at the local hardware store. You used to be able to buy rifles like this for pennies on the dollar.

There were also periods through the 70s and 80s and 90s when these things were available as well either through the CMP or other importers though if this one was a later import it would have an importers mark on it somewhere.

 

[Weldor]

Here's a few more photos if anyone would be willing to tell me a little more about it. View attachment 869740View attachment 869741View attachment 869742

Inlands were very common. Lots of them made.

 

[Weldor]

Found a old Johnson arms add, they have the sporter stock in the OP pic. also a 5.7 cal. m1 carbine. OP please check caliber before shooting 30 carbine through it. 1964 add.