What happened to the model 70 in 7mm-08?

[R7RMag]

Does anybody know if the Winchester model 70 extreme tungsten in 7mm-08 has been discontinued or why it’s impossible to find? Seems I have terrible luck when it comes to obtaining rifles I want. It’s already rare that I can find a factory rifle that I’m actually interested in these days and when I do, I immediately find out it’s been discontinued or it’s just nonexistent on the market for some unknown reason

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Does anybody know if the Winchester model 70 extreme tungsten in 7mm-08 has been discontinued or why it’s impossible to find? Seems I have terrible luck when it comes to obtaining rifles I want. It’s already rare that I can find a factory rifle that I’m actually interested in these days and when I do, I immediately find out it’s been discontinued or it’s just nonexistent on the market for some unknown reason

According to their website, it’s no longer in production. It looks like they are cutting back on lots of different chamberings, even 30-06. They probably cycle through which ones they make. Right now they are making the 338wm, for a long time those were really tough to find. I have one in 30-06 that I’ve had for about 10 years.

They are nice guns, the m70 action is nice but these are heavy guns, I think my 30-06 is just under 9lbs with the scope on it. Not the end of the world and not everybody wants a superlite rifle.

Edit: I typed all that and now se you were asking about the tungsten, I’m guessing since its just a coating on the metal, they just aren’t making 7/08 barrels at the moment.

 

[R7RMag]

According to their website, it’s no longer in production. It looks like they are cutting back on lots of different chamberings, even 30-06. They probably cycle through which ones they make. Right now they are making the 338wm, for a long time those were really tough to find. I have one in 30-06 that I’ve had for about 10 years.

They are nice guns, the m70 action is nice but these are heavy guns, I think my 30-06 is just under 9lbs with the scope on it. Not the end of the world and not everybody wants a superlite rifle.

Edit: I typed all that and now se you were asking about the tungsten, I’m guessing since its just a coating on the metal, they just aren’t making 7/08 barrels at the moment.

Yeah the website shows the “extreme tungsten” weighs in at 6lb 12oz. I’m actually in the group who does want a superlite rifle, but it seems they’re pretty hard to come by in calibers I want that aren’t either TOO cheap or well over $2k.

I have a Coues whitetail hunt coming up in December and I’m trying to figure out which rifle to use. I do have a model 70 compact in .243 that’s nice and light, and a 7mm rem mag that’s just over 9 pounds. I’m thinking the 7 mag may be a little more than I want to carry in that rough ass country. Thinking about investing in a new scope with a turret for the .243, but worry about its performance at longer ranges. Which is why a potential new rifle in 7-08 is on my mind

 

[il_cop]

Can vouch for the 6lb 12oz weight as reported.
My father has an extreme tungsten in 270wsm. It's a very nice rifle, fwiw.

 

[R7RMag]

Can vouch for the 6lb 12oz weight as reported.
My father has an extreme tungsten in 270wsm. It's a very nice rifle, fwiw.

Maybe I’ll get lucky and stumble on a 7-08 up for sale. I was doing a little looking at the 6.8 western too. Can order one of those right now, but it’s got an extra 2” on the barrel and 1/4lb heavier. If it wasn’t for that, I’d probably pull the trigger on it (no pun intended). Maybe I’m just being too picky

 

[Deere_Man]

Does anybody know if the Winchester model 70 extreme tungsten in 7mm-08 has been discontinued or why it’s impossible to find? Seems I have terrible luck when it comes to obtaining rifles I want. It’s already rare that I can find a factory rifle that I’m actually interested in these days and when I do, I immediately find out it’s been discontinued or it’s just nonexistent on the market for some unknown reason

Their extreme weather line has become crowded with redundant models. There are still several versions that show to be available in 7mm-08.

 

[Lentuk]

This, unless you want to buy a new rifle why not use the .243?
"I have a Coues whitetail hunt coming up in December and I’m trying to figure out which rifle to use. I do have a model 70 compact in .243"

 

[R7RMag]

Their extreme weather line has become crowded with redundant models. There are still several versions that show to be available in 7mm-08.


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Their website shows the tungsten model is still available too, but can’t actually find it for sale anywhere

 

[R7RMag]

This, unless you want to buy a new rifle why not use the .243?
"I have a Coues whitetail hunt coming up in December and I’m trying to figure out which rifle to use. I do have a model 70 compact in .243"

Just a little concerned that the bullet may not perform well at longer ranges. I don’t want to get in a situation where I’m on a big buck that’s about to be gone with no way of closing the distance and be wishing I’d brought a rifle that would allow me to ethically shoot that extra 100 yards. It took me 15 years to draw this tag, so I want to try to make sure the only regrets I can have about it is a wrong decision I made during the hunt.

All that being said, coues are small animals, so maybe the .243 will be adequate for any ranges a guy could confidently put a shot in the kill zone. Gotta do some more research on loads, bullets and what-not before committing to it though

 

[Lentuk]

What twist is your barrel? most likely a 1 in 10, 90 to 100 grain bullet of choice should work on a Coues.
Check out this thread.

Thread '6mm /.243 hunting success on Big Game'

Oct 28, 2022

With the success of .223 and 6.5 threads on big game, thought I’d throw this one into the mix.

Show and detail your results harvesting big game (deer, bear, elk, moose, African game) using 6mm/.243 cartridges. Please detail bullet, MV, impact velocity, and whether hand load or factory ammo.

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[Deere_Man]

Their website shows the tungsten model is still available too, but can’t actually find it for sale anywhere

If you can make due with a 308, there seem to be plenty on Gunbroker

 

[HandgunHTR]

Just a little concerned that the bullet may not perform well at longer ranges. I don’t want to get in a situation where I’m on a big buck that’s about to be gone with no way of closing the distance and be wishing I’d brought a rifle that would allow me to ethically shoot that extra 100 yards. It took me 15 years to draw this tag, so I want to try to make sure the only regrets I can have about it is a wrong decision I made during the hunt.

All that being said, coues are small animals, so maybe the .243 will be adequate for any ranges a guy could confidently put a shot in the kill zone. Gotta do some more research on loads, bullets and what-not before committing to it though

Are you comfortable taking 700 yard shots? If so, then the 243, using a 95 grain Nosler BT or Berger Classic Hunter is a 700 yard gun.
If you are an MOA guy you are looking at 14.5MOA of elevation adjustment at 700 yards and 5.3MOA of wind and spin drift adjustment with a full-value 10mph wind.
If you are a MIL guy, then the numbers are 4.2 Mils elevation and 1.5 wind.

 

[R7RMag]

Are you comfortable taking 700 yard shots? If so, then the 243, using a 95 grain Nosler BT or Berger Classic Hunter is a 700 yard gun.
If you are an MOA guy you are looking at 14.5MOA of elevation adjustment at 700 yards and 5.3MOA of wind and spin drift adjustment with a full-value 10mph wind.
If you are a MIL guy, then the numbers are 4.2 Mils elevation and 1.5 wind.

I’ve punched plenty of paper out to 700 with the 7 mag, but only out to 400 with the .243. I just have a little fixed 4x leupold on the .243, so I’d be looking into upgrading to a variable scope with a turret if I decided to use it for that hunt. I have no doubts the .243 is capable of hitting intended targets at that range. I’m just a little skeptical about reliable bullet expansion on meat past 400-500 yards

 

[Steve300xcw]

I’m just a little skeptical about reliable bullet expansion on meat past 400-500 yards

Time to change bullets then

 

[R7RMag]

Time to change bullets then

It’s not so much MY bullets that I’m skeptical about. Got some nosler partitions the old man loaded up for this specific rifle years ago. I guess I’ve just listened to too many guys say “the .243 is no good on deer past 300 yards.” I’ve personally proven that statement wrong on deer at 400, but figured I was pushing the limits at that distance. Maybe I’ve been underestimating it

 

[Pharmseller]

My apologies for asking, but are you a woman?

The 7mm-08 only works for women and kids, and you don’t sound like a kid.



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[HandgunHTR]

It’s not so much MY bullets that I’m skeptical about. Got some nosler partitions the old man loaded up for this specific rifle years ago. I guess I’ve just listened to too many guys say “the .243 is no good on deer past 300 yards.” I’ve personally proven that statement wrong on deer at 400, but figured I was pushing the limits at that distance. Maybe I’ve been underestimating it

A lot of people have bought into the old gun writers hype about energy transfer, bullet construction, and a whole bunch of other stuff that proves why they are gun writers and not engineers.

A good cup and core bullet, from .22 caliber to .35 caliber, at an impact velocity above 1700-1800 fps will kill cervids with authority, especially ones that top out at 125 lbs.

 

[Steve300xcw]

you don’t sound like a kid.

His dad still loads his ammo for him.....

 

[R7RMag]

My apologies for asking, but are you a woman?

The 7mm-08 only works for women and kids, and you don’t sound like a kid.



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Lol, nope. Just a 31 year old man who wants a lightweight rifle to use on small deer at long ranges, miles into some of the roughest country Arizona has to offer

 

[R7RMag]

His dad still loads his ammo for him.....

Well, I’ve had that ammo for about 10 years now, so no he doesn’t still load my ammo, and I’m away from home about 120 hours a week.