I bought mine in mil. Glass to me is great. Love the elevation turret controls and feel. Windage turret not that important as I’m only using it at sight in. It is quieter than the elevation turret, but adjustment is positive. I’m not crazy about the new illumination actuator. I prefer the twist with off positions in between each setting. Side focus is smooth. I wish the markings across the scope were larger/brighter. I’d rather have the bikini scope cover vs the neoprene. Best price I’ve seen for the
Vortex Viper HD 3-15x44
Thanks for answering in detail! Pretty much confirming everything I already suspected, but that's still valuable info.
I like dial illumination with off between each setting too. I don't understand why anyone would actually want push button instead, but I hear the mfrs. usually do it to save weight when that's a goal. Basically I just wondered if it's as annoying in reality as I imagine it to be coming from someone who is used to dial. ie.- does it suck but you get used to it? Or does it suck and you curse it frequently and always have the occasional blip where you have to go back thru all the settings? If someone has never had dial illumination then they won't miss what they don't know.
I am not generally a windage dialer so the windage being worse than elevation is an acceptable trade-off for weight/cost savings EXCEPT this scope isn't ffp. I would prefer ffp in 3-15. This concerns me a bit as I hate the thought of needing to be at 15x for accurate wind holds. I would probably get the 5-25 ffp version for this reason, but I'd rather have the smaller scope. I probably wouldn't need enough wind hold for my hunting to mess me up (could literally just hold in perceived inches on the animal at my ranges and probably always be fine), but it bugs me. Plus I want this as a crossover scope to plink long ranges with. Wish they'd just offer a 3-15 ffp.
There are other scopes that'd probably work better for what I want, but most are heavier and that's a factor for me as well.
Plus I'm hearing good things about the glass and I like vortex warranty in case I fall and land on the scope on a mountainside or something. Thanks for mentioning the markings as well. I haven't heard anyone else discuss that and it's a consideration too. Agree totally about neoprene cover, but I would likely have to buy lens covers for anything I'm looking at anyway, so not make or break.
I think the new mk4 HD is probably more ideal for what I want, with razor LHT just behind it, but they cost a lot more. Decisions...