Too much headspace?

NaturalJon

Lil-Rokslider
Joined
Aug 10, 2013
Messages
232
Location
CO
I just loaded some test loads for my rem 700 in 300 WSM. These are once fired. I full length sized them and loaded them. As I was cleaning them up I noticed what appears to be some stretching on the case.

Is this something I should get addressed?

Are these sounds safe to fire?

The case measurements were within spec after sizing. I have never seen this before after firing and sizing. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
Last edited:
OP
NaturalJon

NaturalJon

Lil-Rokslider
Joined
Aug 10, 2013
Messages
232
Location
CO
e4c1ead0a5ca8d9e24fad0368be8d8b7.jpg
 

lcxctf2000

Lil-Rokslider
Joined
Dec 15, 2014
Messages
134
Location
Madison, WI
How do you set u pyour full length die for sizing?

Do you have any fired but not sized cases to compare to?
 
OP
NaturalJon

NaturalJon

Lil-Rokslider
Joined
Aug 10, 2013
Messages
232
Location
CO
8936a88c012d6b180317e9ea11e8683d.jpg


Here is an unsized one fired brass. I set up my for per the rcbs instructions. Is this just the way the brass is?
 
OP
NaturalJon

NaturalJon

Lil-Rokslider
Joined
Aug 10, 2013
Messages
232
Location
CO
8936a88c012d6b180317e9ea11e8683d.jpg


Here is an unsized one fired brass. I set up my die per the rcbs instructions. Is this just the way the brass is?
8936a88c012d6b180317e9ea11e8683d.jpg


Here is an unsized one fired brass. I set up my for per the rcbs instructions. Is this just the way the brass is?
 

Shrek

WKR
Joined
Jul 17, 2012
Messages
7,066
Location
Hilliard Florida
If you take a paperclip and unwind it or other piece of wire and put a little L at the end and stick it down into the case to the bottom at the side and drag the point up the side of the case across that area and see if you feel a dip or kind of groove. If not then it should be fine. I think what you are seeing is where the die ends squeezing it down. I have that discoloration on many of my cases but they show no signs of case head separation and I've never had a problem with separation. My 7mm wsm cases in particular show a ring like that. Look for thinning of the case wall at the base inside the case.
 

Shrek

WKR
Joined
Jul 17, 2012
Messages
7,066
Location
Hilliard Florida
You probably have a big factory chamber but that isn't a big deal if you don't size the brass too much. Just size the brass enough to set the shoulder back one to two thousandths. These are only once fired so there is some spring back already there and a thousandth is all you need. A bushing neck die is what you need to get the best case life out of the brass. Measure the loaded rounds neck diameter and fired neck diameter and see how much expansion you are getting. Check the same at the line you are seeing.
 

mtluckydan

Lil-Rokslider
Joined
Dec 7, 2012
Messages
290
As Shrek said, this ring is where your die is stopping in the sizing function. You are not resizing that last little bit. As long as the case is cycling through your rifle with no problems, I would not worry. I usually cycle my brass after sizing prior to charging just to make sure all of it sized correctly. I think if headspacing is a problem, you will see case head separation and/or stretching in the actual webbing of the case head.
 

bpotter

Lil-Rokslider
Joined
Apr 6, 2013
Messages
206
Cant be sure but it looks like you are resizing the full length. If you are reloading for the same rifle the brass was fired from, you only need to set the due to bump the shoulder back 1 to 2 thousandths. Should cycle fine and brass should last longer.
 

bhylton

WKR
Joined
Jan 28, 2015
Messages
604
Location
-MT-
My 300wsm has the same ring and has had no separation issues. Do the cases cycle ok after being resized? My 270wsm cases get that ring but the ring is larger than the case body and they will not chamber after firing or one run through a fl sizer. Idk if that's headspace issue but maybe your having the same problem?
 
Top