Time for an Optics Upgrade. Help Needed!

NateK

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I need some help guys. I am planning to bite the bullet and buy my first high end optics next year and would like some input from guys who have experience with the optics I am looking at. Here is what I am looking at:

1. Budget is under $2,500 (which includes a hopeful resale value of my current cheaper spotter). This is pretty set in stone and I am going to be scraping to make that much happen so please don't tell me to buy $10,000 in optics in one year. And yes, $2,500 is more than the value of my vehicle so I'm not driving a $50,000 truck and skimping on optics!

2. I also don't want to buy anything I will want to upgrade in the future at this point.

3. I will be hunting mule deer in colorado, elk in wyoming, coues deer in arizona, and others over the next few years.

4. I do like to hunt "big" animals for the given area/tag but at the end of the day I won't be counting inches trying to decide if a buck is a shooter. To me big is big enough.

Based on the research I have done I have pretty much narrowed my search down to either 10x42 or 15x56 Swaro SLCs (see #2 above). If I opt for the 10x42s they will be my only optics for at least the next three years or so until I can swing for a nice spotter. If I go with the 15s I will hang onto my cheaper 10x42s I currently have to keep in my harness and glass with the 15's off of a tripod. i do feel like the 15s will be enough for to decide if an animal is what I would consider a shooter (see #4 above) and would bridge the gap nicely between glassing with binos and a spotter. However, I understand 10s are way more versatile.

Do you guys think I would be better off with a only a pair of high quality 10s or a pair of lower end 10's for up close and high end 15s for any real glassing (I cant hand hold 10s steady enough to glass with at any distance so a tripod id a given regardless). As stated above I do feel like a spotter of the quality I want is something that will have to wait a few years!

Also, I am pretty knew (very knew) to this glassing game so any advice from guys who have been doing this a long time would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Nate
 
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From what I have been able to find the 12x50s are right around $2,900 day in and day out and based on searching the classifieds here used sets are few are far between. $2,900 is really more than I can justify right now so unless I can get lucky and find a nice used pair it will likely be either 10s or 15s. The 12x50s were the first pair I looked at though...
 

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You’ve got great choices. But given what you hunt and where, I might recommend you buy the Maven B2 11x45 binoculars and a Vortex Raxor 27-60x80 angled spotting scope. Keep your 10x42s and you ave excellent optics, even if not the absolute top of the pyramid. You’d be under or right at your budget.
 
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I’ve looked pretty hard at the Mavens but personally feel like I would end up going with swaros down the road just because they do have the reputation of being “the best” for most people. Depending on what comes up in the next six months I may have to look down a price point and the mavens sure look sweet!
 
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Here is a little more info: I will probably be focusing on elk for the next couple of years with an antelope hunt or two through in (no real trophy antelope units) so it will probably be a few years before I get back to mule deer. With that being the case I’m thinking buy the best binos I can afford now and add a spotter prior to chasing mule deer again since that seems to be the hunt I’ll really wish I had one.
 

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With that added info you don’t need a spotter for elk. I’d buy a Swarovski/Leica/Zeiss Alpha 10x make sure you have a way to mount it on a tripod and you can use that for ANYTHING for the rest of your life. I’ve hunted Midwest deer for almost 40 years and have never felt 10x was overpowered. 10x is not PERFECT for everything but it is really really good for just about anything.
 

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Are you set on new? If not patiently shop around. You could get 10x42 SLC HD used for $1300-1400. Great glass, no field flattener like EL. I don’t think you will not see something the ELs will.

Wait on your spotter. For top end performance and reasonable price looked at the Meopta S2 (Cabelas Instinct). I just saw one at $1400, which was a bargain. Cabelas is known for some holiday specials 20-30% off.

Be patient and shop around.

Take another look around your gear, sell some stuff you are using. Maybe you can round up the extra $ and make it work.


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Definitely not set on new. I’m really liking the idea of finding a set of 10x42 slc for under $1,500 and saving the rest for a spotter when I can build up the rest...
 

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I decided to upgrade my Bino's this year. I looked and a lot of glass and settled on the Swaro SLC, I initially thought I wanted the 10x42 but after talking to some guys that do a lot of glassing for Coues deer and looking thru them I decided they were to much for my east coast hunting. I did not want to have my best piece of glass sitting in the safe for that one western hunt a year. So with that I bought the SLC 8 X 42 from Cameraland. They are absolutely amazing. FOV is better than the 10's, brighter at dawn and dusk and when mounted on my tripod more than enough power for my yearly western hunt. I do have a Swaro spotter when I need to reach out so I may be in a different position. Guess it all depends on what your primary use for them is.
 
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I cant hunt without my 15's and I rarely use my spotter anymore since I started using big glass on a tripod. I'm to the point now that I don't even bother with a pair of 10's and just put the 15's in my AGC bino pack and only use the the spotter if i really want to tear something apart or get some video.
 

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Seen several 12x50 el’s over the past few months in the 2000-2200 range, and slc 8’s and 10’s in the 12-1300 range. If you are planning for next year just be patient and keep an eye out, lot better deals when it’s not around hunting season.
 

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#1 quality 10x42
#2 quality 65 mm packable spotter like a Vortex Razor or better. Pair with a good tripod and head.

You should be able to do this for right around $2400

Next up are the specialty items.

#3 an 85mm full size quality spotter that tops out at 70 or 75x, tripod and head to support it and a quality 15x56 binocular.

I have all four but it has taken a while to get there. The first two are the most used in the field.
 

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I waited and shopped around. I found a set of 10 x 42 slc for $1,000. Ive also seen Swaro 65 spotters for $1,500

Ive been down the cheaper road. Id buy to of of line binos and wait on the spotter.
 

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Here is my go to for all my western hunts. Vortex Razor 10x42 binos with a single monocular "doubler" from vortex. Also, i have the tripod mount for the binos. Allows me to use binos as a 20x spotter from a monopod or a tripod. For 90% of the hunts i have done, this is a great option. No need to lug a spotter around on most hunts, especially for elk. Also, i have not found that i sacrificed anything with Razors vs Swaro SLC for the hunts i do.
 

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