Tennessee to construct CWD Incinerator

[Poser]

Deer Carcass Incinerator to Be Constructed in Fayette County

www.tn.gov

 

[rlmmarine]

Damn i hate to here tn has it my home state of ky will have it next

 

[KoolBreeze]

I'm extremely concerned about it as well. So much so that I've gotten to the point to where I'm hesitating to even shoot them, then have to deal handling them and everything comes with it. Probably over concerned though, since I'm not hunting in an area where a case has been found, albeit I'm only 40 or 50 miles from it.

 

[stealthgoat]

- no issues (yet ) where we hunt in middle TN, but we are also very concerned.

 

[rob86jeep]

What do they think this will do exactly? The CWD prions will already be at the kill site and all the equipment used (or that touched) the animal during processing/transportation. So, it will only help prevent more CWD animals from ending up in a landfill? That seems like a lot of cost for a very little amount of gain.

 

[Poser]

What do they think this will do exactly? The CWD prions will already be at the kill site and all the equipment used (or that touched) the animal during processing/transportation. So, it will only help prevent more CWD animals from ending up in a landfill? That seems like a lot of cost for a very little amount of gain.

As a former TN resident with quite a bit of hunter ties to the state, it seems that the game agency is convinced that they are not going to have failed to deal with CWD due to inaction.

 

[rob86jeep]

As a former TN resident with quite a bit of hunter ties to the state, it seems that the game agency is convinced that they are not going to have failed to deal with CWD due to inaction.

Good point. I guess I can't blame them for at least trying to do something,

 

[Desk Jockey]

I wonder if an incenerator is the best answer. from what I read it seems like a bunch of dumpsters spread around as collection points would be needed. From there I guess the carcasses could be burned or buried.

 

[KoolBreeze]

Here in MS they are telling us to leave the carcasses where the deer was shot or double bag it in trash bags and take to a landfill or bury it deep. They also say to protect everything that may come in contact with bodily fluids with plastic sheeting and to soak knives and such in 50:50 bleach for 4 hours. Then they want the heads or certain lymph nodes turned in for testing. They’ve also made it unlawful to transport anything other than deboned or processed meat out of the CWD zone.

So they are obviously doing what they can to contain it. Personally I’m still undecided whether all of the trouble is worth it any more.

 

[Poser]

Here in MS they are telling us to leave the carcasses where the deer was shot or double bag it in trash bags and take to a landfill or bury it deep. They also say to protect everything that may come in contact with bodily fluids with plastic sheeting and to soak knives and such in 50:50 bleach for 4 hours. Then they want the heads or certain lymph nodes turned in for testing. They’ve also made it unlawful to transport anything other than deboned or processed meat out of the CWD zone.

So they are obviously doing what they can to contain it. Personally I’m still undecided whether all of the trouble is worth it any more.

Will your landfills in MS actually allow you to dispose of Animal carcasses? I’ve heard that many landfills do not allow it even though some state game agencies have told hunters to do just that. I also heard some reports that some MS counties are coming back 50% positive for CWD.

 

[deerhunt1988]

I also heard some reports that some MS counties are coming back 50% positive for CWD.

I can confidently assure you that those reports are wrong. Here is a link to the total number of confirmations:

MDWFP - Hunters Needed: Final Push For CWD Samples

www.mdwfp.com

 

[Gunnersdad49]

burning them won't destroy prions. Waste of money.

"Prions cannot be destroyed by boiling, alcohol, acid, standard autoclaving methods, or radiation. In fact, infected brains that have been sitting in formaldehyde for decades can still transmit spongiform disease. Cooking your burger 'til it's well done won't destroy the prions! "

 

[Drenalin]

burning them won't destroy prions. Waste of money.

"Prions cannot be destroyed by boiling, alcohol, acid, standard autoclaving methods, or radiation. In fact, infected brains that have been sitting in formaldehyde for decades can still transmit spongiform disease. Cooking your burger 'til it's well done won't destroy the prions! "

They can't be destroyed by temps we would cook at...the linked article says the proposed incinerator gets above the 1,800 degrees required to kill them.

I'm not saying it's the best idea I've ever heard of because I don't have a CWD answer. But they're at least trying to remove one piece of the puzzle of these prions being left on the landscape, which I would assume is better than doing nothing at all. Sure there will be other sources of infection left, that doesn't mean we shouldn't eliminate the ones we feasibly can. The $1 million price tag isn't a big price to pay in the scheme of things. We certainly spend more than that on much sillier stuff every year.

Heard someone say once, "We need to do something, this is something, we should do this." I'm generally on the side of action rather than inaction, especially when the only negative I can see is that we might waste the million bucks.

 

[KoolBreeze]

Will your landfills in MS actually allow you to dispose of Animal carcasses? I’ve heard that many landfills do not allow it even though some state game agencies have told hunters to do just that. I also heard some reports that some MS counties are coming back 50% positive for CWD.

On the landfills, I do not know as I’ve not tried. MDWFP is in full blown test mode though. They had a goal of testing like 10,000 this season, so I’m sure they are taking the remains somewhere.

As to the numbers infected, word around here is they’re not finding many and that it’s worse in Southwest TN. Thing is they say a negative test is inconclusive.

 

[sasquatch]

They blowing this CWD out of proportion! It’s probably been around forever

Remember when Ebola was gonna kill us all?


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[Poser]

They blowing this CWD out of proportion! It’s probably been around forever

Remember when Ebola was gonna kill us all?


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How about cancer, too? That’s been around forever. Might as well pull the funding for St Jude. I mean shit, why even intervene with disease at all. Vaccines? Who needs them? Tetanus shot after getting cut by a piece of corrugated metal? That’s for little bitches. Heck, no reason to deworm your dog or get rabies vaccines -don’t you know rabies has been around forever?

Also: Ted Nugent knows everything.

 

[sasquatch]

No, not exactly. However how them antibiotics working now since ppl take them for everything.

And st Jude’s main funding is from donations! 75%. Idc where ppl donate, I’m one of them! I don’t want things forced upon ppl which happens ALOT.

The same ones who suffer from wolf introductions are the same ones who get robbed of the funding for it!

And besides, what’s been the main resolution so far on getting CWD under control??? KILL OFF ALL THE DEER SO CWD DONT KILL THEM!!

Enjoy when there’s no tags left.

Ever thought we’d one day be taxed to death for nothing? All the money in the world sometimes just won’t fix things!

Many times we create more problems than we solve!

And I don’t have any companion pets to worry about so idc what you do with your dog.

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[Poser]

No, not exactly. However how them antibiotics working now since ppl take them for everything.

And st Jude’s main funding is from donations! 75%. Idc where ppl donate, I’m one of them! I don’t want things forced upon ppl which happens ALOT.

The same ones who suffer from wolf introductions are the same ones who get robbed of the funding for it!

And besides, what’s been the main resolution so far on getting CWD under control??? KILL OFF ALL THE DEER SO CWD DONT KILL THEM!!

Enjoy when there’s no tags left.

Ever thought we’d one day be taxed to death for nothing? All the money in the world sometimes just won’t fix things!

Many times we create more problems than we solve!

And I don’t have any companion pets to worry about so idc what you do with your dog.

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I believe that the point that is lost on you is that we have to first understand CWD in order to address it. The fact is, we don’t understand the disease. There was a time when we didn’t understand cancer. There was a time when we didn’t understand rabies. And we don’t yet know for sure that CWD is not having an effect or going to have an effect on humans some years down the road. It could be a 10, 15, 20 year incubation cycle that’s not testing positive in humans because the diseased Orion’s are interacting with human cells in a different way than deer. The way you learn about disease is by taking action and experimenting. How many millions of dollars did it take to get to a point where cancer was even treatable? How much money went into researching rabies in order to develop a vaccine?

Where does this idea come from that we should just roll over, give up and let CWD do it’s thing? We don’t know if it even existed before 1967 and it may have well been caused by the human intervention of containing deer. We don’t even know that. The federal money set aside to help the states with research comes from existing funding from the department of agriculture, interior and environmental agencies. It’s not like you’re getting a new tax to pay for CWD research.

I keep seeing this sentiment across the inter webs and I just don’t understand it. Is it an inability to deal with the idea and potential consequences of an impending disease effecting the future of hunting that makes you want to limit any possible new knowledge and future understanding of it so that you can hope to pretend that there may be no consequences? In other words, “ignorance is bliss?” Is that what it is?

As hunters, we are the only large group of people who are going to confront this. We have a handful of scientists and the limited resources of state game agencies. That’s pretty much it. Nobody else cares about deer disease and Nobody else is going to care and so it surprising to me that there exists a contingency of hunters who, despite being almost entirely ignorant of the facts (as in they know less than the experts who don’t yet even know a whole lot themselves) who are just immediately dismissive: don’t want to know more, don’t care to know more, have emotional reactions to the suggestions that they might want to learn more. Some even deny that CWD exists.

 

[rob86jeep]

Here in MS they are telling us to leave the carcasses where the deer was shot or double bag it in trash bags and take to a landfill or bury it deep. They also say to protect everything that may come in contact with bodily fluids with plastic sheeting and to soak knives and such in 50:50 bleach for 4 hours. Then they want the heads or certain lymph nodes turned in for testing. They’ve also made it unlawful to transport anything other than deboned or processed meat out of the CWD zone.

So they are obviously doing what they can to contain it. Personally I’m still undecided whether all of the trouble is worth it any more.

How would you be able to tell if they deer had CWD immediately after shooting it in order to leave it there?

 

[sasquatch]

I believe that the point that is lost on you is that we have to first understand CWD in order to address it. The fact is, we don’t understand the disease. There was a time when we didn’t understand cancer. There was a time when we didn’t understand rabies. And we don’t yet know for sure that CWD is not having an effect or going to have an effect on humans some years down the road. It could be a 10, 15, 20 year incubation cycle that’s not testing positive in humans because the diseased Orion’s are interacting with human cells in a different way than deer. The way you learn about disease is by taking action and experimenting. How many millions of dollars did it take to get to a point where cancer was even treatable? How much money went into researching rabies in order to develop a vaccine?

Where does this idea come from that we should just roll over, give up and let CWD do it’s thing? We don’t know if it even existed before 1967 and it may have well been caused by the human intervention of containing deer. We don’t even know that. The federal money set aside to help the states with research comes from existing funding from the department of agriculture, interior and environmental agencies. It’s not like you’re getting a new tax to pay for CWD research.

I keep seeing this sentiment across the inter webs and I just don’t understand it. Is it an inability to deal with the idea and potential consequences of an impending disease effecting the future of hunting that makes you want to limit any possible new knowledge and future understanding of it so that you can hope to pretend that there may be no consequences? In other words, “ignorance is bliss?” Is that what it is?

As hunters, we are the only large group of people who are going to confront this. We have a handful of scientists and the limited resources of state game agencies. That’s pretty much it. Nobody else cares about deer disease and Nobody else is going to care and so it surprising to me that there exists a contingency of hunters who, despite being almost entirely ignorant of the facts (as in they know less than the experts who don’t yet even know a whole lot themselves) who are just immediately dismissive: don’t want to know more, don’t care to know more, have emotional reactions to the suggestions that they might want to learn more. Some even deny that CWD exists.

We will always be destined to find something if we look hard enough!

And no matter how many feelings it hurts, the world can’t support ever exploding populations!


And besides, no there’s isn’t a CWD tax, however when one funding source gets spread around for more things, something suffers. When something suffers more income is needed.

When has the govt ever really solved much without giving us a scare first so we fall for paying for it? Efficiently?


Things and people/animals have been evolving since way before our time!

But Ik, we humans just know and fix everything don’t we.

When Mother Nature is ready she’ll shake us off like a flea