Tarp setups...

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Found this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcoCNzDi8nY Looks like a better way to go then the standard "High center A-Frame" style that I've used before. I'm thinking about getting three folding aluminum poles to use tri-pod style to support the center. Then I can use this style above the tree line or if there aren't many tree's around. Of course I don't even bother with a tarp in the early season unless I'm expecting rain. Any thoughts or comments on this? Seems like a can basically get a floorless tent without having to pack my 5lb tent in...
 
I considered using two poles leaning against each instead of one vertical pole. This would allow me to sleep in the center instead off to one side of my ParaTarp. I'll probably upgrade to a super this year though.
 
Not a bad idea but why would you need three poles? Granted, a single center pole does get in the way at times but I bet you could come up with a nifty way to pitch the tarp with a single pole and save a bit of weight.
 
Not a bad idea but why would you need three poles? Granted, a single center pole does get in the way at times but I bet you could come up with a nifty way to pitch the tarp with a single pole and save a bit of weight.

Well, it has three corners? I don't want a pole in the center, that's where most of my room is and I don't want to have to be working around that. I suppose that you could use two trecking poles and then also two guylines and suspend the tarp from the center of that, but I'm not sure how high you could get it with the trecking poles. I don't have any yet, but I am planning on getting some so that might be a good way to go...
 
Above treeline i see this being ok in calm to fair weather, but turning into a possible disaster in a storm or with strong winds. There would not be enough structural support for the shelter. It would be like a ships sail in the wind. I am sure it would work great in a more sheltered location, so site selection would be key.

I use a Warbonnet superfly tarp year round with my hammock and understand a tarps limitations, and have even taken my setup to -30F and weather some severe storms. The ability to tie off to trees or rocks should not be underestimated, it plays a vital role in the structural integridy.

The main issue i see here is without a solid center pole providing taught tension the shelter would be highly prone to collapse. The three pole idea is a good one, but without some sort of sleeve etc to run the pole in would actually make the shelter fairly weak. A tripod does not do well at all with crossdirection pressure. If your pushing against a pole, or direct from the top it works fine. But push between poles and it will have a high probability of collapse with nothing else supporting the pole/holding in in place.

If you want to go with a pyramid setup i would either 1) use a center pole and just use a slightly bigger tarp for more room, or 2) camp below treeline.

There are many good ways to rig a tarp with trekking poles. These methods would work much better than trying to rig up something with extra poles.

Check out this video, the first two setups shown are what I would recommend. The first would be kinda what your aiming for...i think, and is very strong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SGFUXpzPGQ

Not trying to be a grouch, just speaking from real world experience.
 
I like the setup that's at the 2min mark in that vid. Gonna have to give that a try. I've never camped so high up, that there was 0 vegetation. There was at least some cedar brush, but it didn't look very usefull for setting up a shelter. I'm just trying to figure out a shelter option that will work without trees and weighs substantially less then my tent. The tent sure is nice, but it takes up a lot of room in my pack and weighs several pounds more then my tarp. I appreciate the feedback. I've been reading those DIY stove threads as well. Anyone here put a stove jack in their tarp for cold weather camping?
 
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Played around with my tarp for a bit in the backyard today. I think the 7x10 size really limits my options. I wish I had a 10x10 now....
 
This is a photo of the one I make with my 12x12 lightweight tarp and a couple poles I cut. It is open in this pic, but the flaps that are tied open fold over and tie at the pole for a closed shelter. Can be done with trekking poles, but I like to walk with them and poles were available so I went with that.

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I think this is about the best I can do with the 7x10 tarp I have. Not bad for 1 person and I'm even thinking about putting a stove jack in it and building a small wood stove! 2 guys could fit in a pinch, but I'm only 5'8" and you can see that my feet go out to the edge because of the 7' dimension. Not bad for a $50 tarp but a 10x10 would be perfect! Oh ya, weighed it with a digital fishing scale....1.8lbs with 5 aluminum stakes and the para-cord plus 15ft extra.
 

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John at Bearpaw has a neat solo tent called the Diamond Solo that uses an offset pole to open up the living space. It's also available in silnylon.
 
John at Bearpaw has a neat solo tent called the Diamond Solo that uses an offset pole to open up the living space. It's also available in silnylon.

It's $300 though? Seems pricey to me. I would probably go with an SL2 at $150 first. A 10x10 tarp is only like $60...
 
It's $300 though? Seems pricey to me. I would probably go with an SL2 at $150 first. A 10x10 tarp is only like $60...
Great post, really want to get into tarping for this years hunts and ski touring.
How's $325 sound lol

Hyperlite mountain gear, square flat tarp 8.5x8.5 cuben fibre

Review here http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Ultralight-Tent-Reviews/Hyperlite-Mountain-Gear-Square-Flat-Tarp

Bomber .74 oz/sqyd, snow load(somewhat) capable for 10oz

Zpacks has there flat tarp for 2oz lighter but uses a lighter .5 oz/sqyd, and a $100 less... For that reason I'm having a tough time picking between the two

I have the sl-2 but the versatility of a tarp just can't be beat
 
I guess the versatility is nice, but all I really wanted was 1 or maybe 2 good configurations to pitch it. I actually kinda wish I had just gone with an SL2 and I might in the future.
 
I think this is about the best I can do with the 7x10 tarp I have. Not bad for 1 person and I'm even thinking about putting a stove jack in it and building a small wood stove! 2 guys could fit in a pinch, but I'm only 5'8" and you can see that my feet go out to the edge because of the 7' dimension. Not bad for a $50 tarp but a 10x10 would be perfect! Oh ya, weighed it with a digital fishing scale....1.8lbs with 5 aluminum stakes and the para-cord plus 15ft extra.
Cool set -up
 
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