Stabilizer questions...

[jm1607]

I noticed alot of brands like Dead Center and Stokerized have offset mounts or "drop" mounts. Does it benefit to have your forward and/or side/rear stabilizer lower on your bow?

I also noticed that some manufacturers like Hoyt are offsetting their factory stabilizer mount to the side. Along the same lines I've seen stabilizer mounts like the Stokerized Stasis where it offsets both the front bar and back bar. I know why Hoyt does it, because it wants to help offset the quiver from the factory. I guess my question is, would it be better to have your stabilizer coming out of the center of your bow or offset if you plan on running a side/rear bar? Having it come out the center seems more logical to me... Or, does it just not matter as long as everything is balanced in the end?

 

[big44a4]

To me is doesn’t matter. I’ve run one off the front with side bar coming back/out to side to offset. Now I run a stasis and both do the job.


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[mfllood3800]

The idea of Stabilizers and back bars is to get the balance of the bow during and after the shot to properly handle the holding and the follow thru and reduce hand torque on your grip. I personally don't grip my bow at all. it just sits between my thumb and pointer finger while pressed into my palm.

When I shoot, the bow stays centered and then after the shot, it just slighty drops forward without canting to the right or left.
All of my bows naturally w/o any stabilizers or weights when shot will naturally rock backwards and to the right ( I am right handed shooter).
I also notice I have to pinch a bit with my left hand that holds the bow to keep it plumbed up, while at full draw.
Stabilizers are meant to bring the bows balance back to plumb both during and after the shot, reducing hand torque and yielding proper follow through.

The idea of the Stoker is that if you mount it off to the side, it is ahead of the curve in doing what it is supposed to be doing already, which is getting weight over to that side to off set the quiver, sight and rest opposing it.
The theory is since it is off set already, it will take less weights to do the job it intends to do, yielding you balanced results at a lighter weight penalty. No one wants a heavy hunting bow.

I have the B stinger which is a straight in line set up with a back bar- I love it
I also just got the Stoker type and am getting used to it.

I set mine up with the back bar, down at about 8" or so and also out from the pivot bracket about 3-5"". This all depends on the weights used.
I use a GoPro on my front stabilizer so I don't need as much weight up front.

I need to add I shoot a PSE Full throttle bow and it has center shot. Some bows have the nock point set up other than center. Your equipment will handle stabilizers different than others depending on how it is set up. So in the need, all that matters is getting the bow to hold during the shot, with the least hand torque possible, and allow the bow to fall forward without any left or right canting.
Hope this makes sense enough to allow you to make some decisions for yourself based on where what and how you hunt.

 

[AZElk]

Agreed

 

[jm1607]

The idea of Stabilizers and back bars is to get the balance of the bow during and after the shot to properly handle the holding and the follow thru and reduce hand torque on your grip. I personally don't grip my bow at all. it just sits between my thumb and pointer finger while pressed into my palm.

When I shoot, the bow stays centered and then after the shot, it just slighty drops forward without canting to the right or left.
All of my bows naturally w/o any stabilizers or weights when shot will naturally rock backwards and to the right ( I am right handed shooter).
I also notice I have to pinch a bit with my left hand that holds the bow to keep it plumbed up, while at full draw.
Stabilizers are meant to bring the bows balance back to plumb both during and after the shot, reducing hand torque and yielding proper follow through.

The idea of the Stoker is that if you mount it off to the side, it is ahead of the curve in doing what it is supposed to be doing already, which is getting weight over to that side to off set the quiver, sight and rest opposing it.
The theory is since it is off set already, it will take less weights to do the job it intends to do, yielding you balanced results at a lighter weight penalty. No one wants a heavy hunting bow.

I have the B stinger which is a straight in line set up with a back bar- I love it
I also just got the Stoker type and am getting used to it.

I set mine up with the back bar, down at about 8" or so and also out from the pivot bracket about 3-5"". This all depends on the weights used.
I use a GoPro on my front stabilizer so I don't need as much weight up front.

I need to add I shoot a PSE Full throttle bow and it has center shot. Some bows have the nock point set up other than center. Your equipment will handle stabilizers different than others depending on how it is set up. So in the need, all that matters is getting the bow to hold during the shot, with the least hand torque possible, and allow the bow to fall forward without any left or right canting.
Hope this makes sense enough to allow you to make some decisions for yourself based on where what and how you hunt.

Ok, cool.

That's basically what I thought but it's nice to see it written out.. Thanks!

So as far as the stabilizers go, is there a benefit to having them lower on the bow? Will they take less weight and make the overall weight of the bow lighter? That's the only thing I can think of...

 

[mfllood3800]

Placement comes down to personal preference. Some hunters need everything tight and compact to fit in a case, in a tree stand, ground blind, on a back pack etc...

Bows tend to be top heavy, so need the weight down low.

You will have to decide what your needs are.
I like mine compact for back pack hunting.

The best benefit of the Stoker is it does get the weight out where it needs to be with less weight needed.
The benefit of the B Stinger set up, Is it allows a tool less removal of the stabilizer in scenarios where a tool isn't desirable.. Yet removing the Stabilizer is.

 

[jm1607]

Also, when balancing out the weight front to back, how do you know how much weight to put on the front.

For example, say I have a B-stinger setup with 3oz front and 8oz rear (I made all this up) and it's balanced pretty good. What if it also balances a 2oz front 6-7oz rear, or 1oz from and 5oz rear.. OR you could go the other direction and add weights..

So what I'm asking is besides balancing, is there a benefit to having the weights heavier or lighter?

 

[mfllood3800]

You have to hold it in your hand, and shoot it and the watch what it does.
Keeping in my, you will need to really work on good form as well, not over gripping with your bow hand, or grabbing the bow when shot is fired etc....
Here are some examples of what and where to put the weights...
Ex if it drops backwards and to the right, you need more weight up front and need to kick the back bar out to the left more or add more weights

If it drops forward a little but also kicks to the left- leave the front alone and move the side bar closer to the string getting more weight to the right side ( could also take on of the round weights off the back bar)

 

[big44a4]

Great posts from mf. Also keep in mind some bows are too light and need more weight to help hold steadier in some wind. Still comes down to preference but I add less weight on a halon than a carbon knight. Only way to know is to experiment and pay attention to how it reacts to you.


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