Sleeping bag or quilt

Emh

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I need some help. Mummy bags are to tight. I sleep cold and on my stomach and tend to move alot at night. I need a 10 or 0 degree rating. Weight is also a huge consideration and under 2 ibs would be great. I will spend cash if it means a good, warm, comfortable nights sleep. The xtherm is going to be my pad. Unless there is better. What say y'all???
 

WyoElk

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I'm also a stomach sleeper and move a lot. I use the xtherm and sleep significantly better under a quilt than in a mummy bag. I usually sleep warm but have stayed toasty down to about 30 in my EE 20 degree quilt. I love the setup and will likely never use a bag again. Quilts are incredible.
 

5MilesBack

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I'm also a stomach sleeper, as well as a side sleeper and back sleeper too. I hate being constricted, especially at 6'6" cooped up in a cocoon. I'm a cold sleeper so I have a 0 degree EE down quilt and sleep on an Xtherm. Great combo. I also have a 20 degree on the way, for those warmer months.......like July.;)
 
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Have you looked at the Big Agnes Classic sleeping bags? I had a Western Mountaineering Highlite that I used on a high country mule deer hunt in September in Colorado. I felt like I spent more time awake than asleep and decided then and there that the mummy bag wasn't cutting it for me (and I'm only 5'8"). I looked at other options and bought an EE quilt which I have yet to use. I looked to see what other options there were for more traditional sleeping bag systems. I came across the Big Agnes bags and bought two of them (the Blackburn 0 degree and the Heart Mountain 30 degree). There are two things that sold me on those bags: one, they are not a mummy shape and are more rectangular (not a perfect rectangle but they have a wider footbox) so you have space; and two, they have an integrated sleeve for you sleeping pad. This ensures that you are not sliding off your pad and that your sleeping bag is not twisting on you as you toss and turn. It's led to a very comfortable sleep for me. They come with a slight weight penalty but I decided I was willing to take that given how I slept in a lightweight mummy bag.
 

Whisky

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I not only sleep on my stomach but I have to kick a leg out to the side as well, usually off the pad mostly. And I toss and turn until I fall asleep. And I'm not a sub 200lb little guy either. The BA Mystic SL 15 and WM Kodiak 0 have both worked well for me. The BA has lots of room and the Kodiak is a little roomier then a true mummy bag. No quilt experience.
 
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I have EE quilts in 0*, 10* and 20* (all long/wide) with a 26" wide Exped pad. There is no uncomfortable position with 3.5" of padding and big quilt that doesn't constrict you although I do prefer sleeping in a hammock and the EE quilts are ideal for those.
 

luke moffat

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My sleeping bag is a quilt until I get cold and zip it up :).

I don't see myself ever buying a quilt.


I thought the same thing 6 years ago.....then I bought one. Still use bags certainly, but quilts get the nod more and more ;)
 
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Emh

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Bigeasy, I could not either of those BA bags on their website. Discontinued? Or I'm blind! :D. Whiskey, the mistic looks pretty good and I'm glad it works for you as I am right at 200 and 5.10. When it comes to quilts I assume I should look at a wide one for extra room? Are they drafty? In AZ where I'm at the nights at 4000' can get down to single digits from time to time but mostly teens and 20s. Thanks for the help amigos!
 
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Bigeasy, I could not either of those BA bags on their website. Discontinued? Or I'm blind! :D. Whiskey, the mistic looks pretty good and I'm glad it works for you as I am right at 200 and 5.10. When it comes to quilts I assume I should look at a wide one for extra room? Are they drafty? In AZ where I'm at the nights at 4000' can get down to single digits from time to time but mostly teens and 20s. Thanks for the help amigos!

Looks like they may be discontinued. They were in the Classic SL line. Looks like the only one on their website now is the Mystic 15 degree bag, which would be a pretty nice bag. Looks like they have a 20% off special on it. I think you can find their brochure online as well as past ones to see what other bags were and are in that particular line.
 

mtluckydan

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Western Mountaineering makes several semi-rectangular bags for various cold ratings. Kifaru has a regular and a wide bag. I have yet to get twisted up in either of these bags since I switched several years ago. I have a 0 & a -20 kifaru wide bag and like both of them. They will weight more than two pounds, but are light for their rating. I have a big agnes 0 bag and it sucks compared to the others. The WM bag is a 20 or 25 degree bag and does weight 2 lbs.
 

Ramshead

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If you want to stay under 2 lbs, only a quilt will do that for you. To achieve your desired temperature ratings in a roomy bag you are looking at a minimum of 2 1/2 lbs. in a high quality bag, 3lbs or more in a mid priced bag. A lightweight bivy (6 oz.) will help keep the drafts at bay in a quilt when cold.(but may add condensation to your sleep system). If you get a quilt, go a little extra wider and longer so you can tuck in when the temp drops. The EE Revelation would be a good choice in a quilt.

EDIT: The new ZPacks Extra Wide 10 degree sleeping bag will get you under 2 lbs . as well. Would not hurt to get the optional full length zipper so you can open it up completely on a warm night
 
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