Side arm while archery hunting

Matt21418

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So I see a lot of folks posting pics of their glock 20 as their sidearm of choice, and it has me wondering about stepping up to the 10 mm, if so does anyone have anything good or bad to say about the glock 20 or 40. I am leaning towards the 40 for versatility down the road, but will it just be to large to carry and will it be in the way? I plan on hooking it to the waist belt of my backpack. I currently have other options such as a super red hawk in 454 casul, 40 S&W, or 9 mm. I would mostly plan on using this as a side arm in Colorado during general archery season or doing general backpacking or possibly for small game hunting in texas (that is if I got the 40 with the optic plate). If I were going where I knew Grizzlies where I think I would be leaning toward the 454. Any thoughts I am open to, just wondering if any others had any experience.

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Matt


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I have a collection of hunting and tactical handguns and hunt with a few of them regularly. I've taken game up to bull moose with a 454 Casull and use a S&W 460 Magnum for deer sized game a lot.

I'm going to be archery hunting elk this fall in griz country and my first thought was to pack my Ruger Alaskan 454 Casull stoked with the 360 grain Buffalo Bore hardcast ammo I've had great success with but I have decided to carry my custom Glock 20. It's 6" barrel and Buffalo Bore 220 grain ammo gives me 15 ready rounds of 41 magnum energy and the clincher is the light that I'll attach a light to it when darkness nears.

This 10 mm powerhouse accompanies me on many hunts, especially those involving freeing dogs and I have a variety of holsters to suit different needs.

I'm really wanting to get my hands on the new 40.
 

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I love wheel guns and carry a S&W 329PD in .44 Mag. Its lighter than a glock 20, and although a bit overkill for most of the areas I hunt I wanted something I could also carry in Grizzly country.
 

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Easy solution - get a 329PD, plus a G21, and a couple threaded drop in barrels,. That way you can shoot .44 mag, .44 special, 10mm, .45, or .45 Super with the option for a compensator on the Glock barrels.

Not that I'm speaking from experience ;)
 
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Matt21418

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Well gents I just pulled the trigger and ordered a Glock model 40...should have it later this week...thanks for the push I needed...the 329PD looked badass but I already have a 629...so rather than do something smart and stick with a caliber I already have I went and bought something I am gonna have to go buy more bullets for...thanks for the input!


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Matt21418

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I have a collection of hunting and tactical handguns and hunt with a few of them regularly. I've taken game up to bull moose with a 454 Casull and use a S&W 460 Magnum for deer sized game a lot.

I'm going to be archery hunting elk this fall in griz country and my first thought was to pack my Ruger Alaskan 454 Casull stoked with the 360 grain Buffalo Bore hardcast ammo I've had great success with but I have decided to carry my custom Glock 20. It's 6" barrel and Buffalo Bore 220 grain ammo gives me 15 ready rounds of 41 magnum energy and the clincher is the light that I'll attach a light to it when darkness nears.

This 10 mm powerhouse accompanies me on many hunts, especially those involving freeing dogs and I have a variety of holsters to suit different needs.

I'm really wanting to get my hands on the new 40.

Hey man I tried to reply to your pm but your box is full...


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The Glock is probably the most reliable pistol out there that just flat out works all the time with most any load. I tell people if you like them it will never let you down.
For me however it points and shoots high with their extreme grip angle. If I close my eyes and draw up I am instinctively pointing way high. In a high stress situation like a fast beast encounter I want the sidearm to shoot where I am looking if I am too hurried and stressed to get the sights in order. I dumped the Glocks for this reason.

My current choice is an FNX45 with a EFK 40Super barrel. I shoot Underwood penetrators or hard cast. Penetration is fantastic on this round. Like many things it is a personal choice but vetting it out impartially is important and could save your life. Don't buy brand X because the crowd does. My take.
 

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For me however it points and shoots high with their extreme grip angle. If I close my eyes and draw up I am instinctively pointing way high. In a high stress situation like a fast beast encounter I want the sidearm to shoot where I am looking if I am too hurried and stressed to get the sights in order. I dumped the Glocks for this reason.[/QUOTE said:
A lot of instructors will tell you that this is how you should align any pistol sight when pressing towards the target in order to acquire the front sight as fast as possible. For a lot of people the grip angle on the block keeps shooters from limp wristing the pistol.

I do agree that the isn't for everyone, but Glock has done a good job in not only the functionality but also the shoot ability.
 
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Colonel Rex Applegate pioneered and taught instinctive combat shooting to the US military. Some of the training weapons had no sights at all. The concept is to "point shoot' accurately and quickly. The sidearm must shoot where you point much like a shotgun or longbow.

I am guessing that is exactly what happens in most high stress shooting incidents unless you are SEAL trained....

Try it, you may sell your current carry gun.

Many videos on YouTube including his old black & white military training film. Fun to watch
 

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I won't be selling my current carry gun anytime soon. I'm a competitive USPSA and IDPA shooter. I've attended classes taught by Frank Garcia, and Bob Vogel. I average 8000 rounds a year, I'll go through 3000 just this month. You should get into the gun games. Yes, pistol shooting is all about speed, but it's also about picking up the front sight as fast as possible.

And no I don't shoot a Glock, I just understand the design aspects of them.
 

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I don't often carry a pistol. Due to my immigration status (non-Immigrant alien) most places I hunt, I can't. However, whenever I hunt in Wyoming, knowing I'll be in bear country, I have my little 3.3" Springfield XDS .45 with me. It's small, light, points instinctively (for me) & loaded with .45 Super 230gn gives me a warm sense of security.

That said, I'd love it a little more if someone'd make a compatible .400 Corbon barrel for it, or Glock would make a compact, single stack 10mm.

I'm of the opinion that anything's better than nothing & nothing's perfect.

I honestly don't see the point of lightening my backpack, spending good money on quality gear that is light & easy to carry; paring my gear down to just the essentials & then strapping 2-3lb of iron that there's a better than 99.9% chance I'll never need to my leg.
 

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Colonel Rex Applegate pioneered and taught instinctive combat shooting to the US military. Some of the training weapons had no sights at all. The concept is to "point shoot' accurately and quickly. The sidearm must shoot where you point much like a shotgun or longbow.

I am guessing that is exactly what happens in most high stress shooting incidents unless you are SEAL trained....

Try it, you may sell your current carry gun.

Many videos on YouTube including his old black & white military training film. Fun to watch

All the force on force scenarios I had in police academy saw me using the sights on my pistol and getting good hits. How much you need to see is dictated by how accurate you need to be. Sometime just the outline of the slide will do, sometime a hard focus on the front sight is necessary.

I've switched between different pistols over the years as my carry methods have changed in search of the better mousetrap. Grip angle doesn't matter if you do some dry practice on draws. Immediately after switching from an M&P to a glock I pointed high, this was gone after a day or two of dry practice. When I switched from a glock to a HK P30 I was pointing low, again, this was resolved with a day or two of practice.
 

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I'd look at the Smith And wesson 69. For me it's as light as I can go and still be able to shoot hot bear loads with. And with my smaller hands it fits really good. I love Glock, but a 44 smokes a 10mm in ballistics.

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