Remington UML or CVA Paramount

AirborneA$$hole

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Hey guys,

So I’ve been doing a lot of reading about the CVA paramount, and I’m quite interested in the 45 caliber offering. Currently I own a Remington ultimate muzzleloader that has not been shot yet, but I have read a few things that make me wonder if I purchased the wrong muzzleloader. I know that if I keep the remington the first thing I need to do is replace the breech plug with the arrowhead plug, but I’m considering selling it as is and getting the CVA paramount HTR. What do y’all think?
 

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Here's another option............ convert your RUM to a custom 45cal. You already have the best action for the conversion and you can use the same stock.
I'd suggest LR Customs or Arrowhead for the conversion.
The conversion will shoot more accurately than the person pulling the trigger.
You would end up with both a SML and substitute rifle.
 
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AirborneA$$hole

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Here's another option............ convert your RUM to a custom 45cal. You already have the best action for the conversion and you can use the same stock.
I'd suggest LR Customs or Arrowhead for the conversion.
The conversion will shoot more accurately than the person pulling the trigger.
You would end up with both a SML and substitute rifle.
You know, I never thought about that. That actually sounds like a pretty decent option. My next question is what would go into that? I have never tinkering with swapping barrels or anything like that.
 

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You know, I never thought about that. That actually sounds like a pretty decent option. My next question is what would go into that? I have never tinkering with swapping barrels or anything like that.
Let one of the builders convert it. Either of those I mentioned can do it for you. There's also a couple others, Bush and Hankins.
Again, those conversions are INSANELY accurate.
 

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I have the ULM but I worry about the primers disappearing from existence
You can always save your Rem primer modules and put new primers in them. If/when one leaks throw it away. When you run out of them altogether there's always the Hankins and Arrowhead conversions for you which take Std Large Rifle Primers just like the Rem.
 
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AirborneA$$hole

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Let one of the builders convert it. Either of those I mentioned can do it for you. There's also a couple others, Bush and Hankins.
Again, those conversions are INSANELY accurate.
I was just looking at arrowhead and the preferred barrels are between 700 and $900. Considering that I spent over $1200 on the gun and the barrel plus labor would be over $1000, I think I would rather just avoid the hassle and extra expense, sell the remington, and buy the CVA paramount. I mean, I want to increase the range that I would be able to shoot, but people are accurately shooting 400 and 500 yards with the Paramount as is and that’s a $1000 gun. I wouldn’t be shooting much farther than that anyway, so I don’t really find it feasible to spend another thousand dollars to do that when I could essentially spend nothing more, and do the same thing. I appreciate the idea and your input though. I just don’t think it’s feasible in my situation.
 

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I was just looking at arrowhead and the preferred barrels are between 700 and $900. Considering that I spent over $1200 on the gun and the barrel plus labor would be over $1000, I think I would rather just avoid the hassle and extra expense, sell the remington, and buy the CVA paramount. I mean, I want to increase the range that I would be able to shoot, but people are accurately shooting 400 and 500 yards with the Paramount as is and that’s a $1000 gun. I wouldn’t be shooting much farther than that anyway, so I don’t really find it feasible to spend another thousand dollars to do that when I could essentially spend nothing more, and do the same thing. I appreciate the idea and your input though. I just don’t think it’s feasible in my situation.
Long range is expensive. The further you shoot, the further you want to shoot. I can't wait for spring and another match to 1,000yds. ;)
Good luck with your decision. When you start shooting, post a couple target photos.
 
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AirborneA$$hole

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Long range is expensive. The further you shoot, the further you want to shoot. I can't wait for spring and another match to 1,000yds. ;)
Good luck with your decision. When you start shooting, post a couple target photos.
Lol I’m starting to see that. Thanks again for all your advice, I appreciate it. And yes, I definitely will!
 

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I have both Paramount Pro 45 cal with Anarchy muzzle brake with Arrowhead ignition system! With Arrowhead 300gr xld bullet bullet to bore!! I love my Paramount but the blackhorn 209 powder is so hard to find! The Paramount with blackhorn is 209 powder is easy to clean! I have left my Paramount loaded all season with no problem! But the only thing about the smokeless there is all most no cleaning the barrel! But to get started the Paramount is not bad idea! I love mine!
 

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I own the original CVA Paramount .45 cal. I ordered it directly from Arrowhead with the upgraded ignition system. Very impressed with the setup personally... In my home state we can use scopes, I have a vortex viper HST on it with a custom cut turret from Kenton industries. I have shot this gun accurately out to 325 yards. I don't think you can go wrong with either the Remington or the CVA, but if I had to do it again I would 100% work with Arrowhead. Great customer service from those guys and answer all questions within a day or two... good luck with it!
 
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