Pin nocks and broadhead consistency?

[joehunter8301]

Curious to see who has played with pin nocks on gold tips and if it improved broad head consistency. I am currently shooting the acculite nocks and they are good but I only get about 7 out of 12 arrows to fly good with bh. I have done every trick I know from floating arrows, cutting from both sides, spin testing heads and still can't get every arrow to fly great. They are consistent just not dead center. Some group left, some high etc etc. I spin each nock and sometimes I find the sweet spot and the arrow flies good and others they don't. Never had this problem before.

Arrow spine is good bow is in great tune like I said I get bout half the arrows to fly great just the others don't. Thoughts???

 

[RosinBag]

I use pin nocks on both hunting and target arrows...can't afford not to, as you will just tear up your arrows.

 

[Jtelarkin08]

what do the pin knocks do??

 

[RosinBag]

If the arrow is prepped and squared, then pin nock bushing out in, it is like squaring your nock to arrow. Very similar to squaring the front end at insert and getting broad heads square. Then the pin nocks fit onto the pin bushing perfectly square and centered on the arrow. They are much more consistent.

Another benefit is when you shoot a nock off you don't tear out the back of the arrow shaft. The nock will break or crack, but won't damage the arrow. The nock bushing prevents arrow damage, no more robin hoods as the other arrow will bounce off.

They will tighten groups up and save your arrows. Also make note that the Gold Tip pin nocks come in two different types. The smaller one is not rated for bows over 60 pounds, but the other one as much poundage as you want.

 

[OR Archer]

A better option in my opinion is the unibushings for G nocks. Much more durable since there is no pin that could bend. Plus the nocks are much more durable than the pin nocks.

 

[RosinBag]

I think the G nock with the unibushing is a great choice also, especially for hunting. Still save the arrow on robin hoods and the G nock is one of the top 3 nock designs made IMO.

For target, the G nocks take a beating because of their size in comparison to the Gold Tip Pin Nock.

Nothing wrong with the G Nock though.

 

[wapitibob]

I wouldn't use a pin bushing if it was free. They've all dropped down to 6061 from 7075 to save a cpl cents. G nock bushing and a G nock for me.

 

[5MilesBack]

I've never had much luck with pin nocks. The pin always seems to get bent then they don't work worth a hill of beans. Easier to just change out broken nocks.

 

[joehunter8301]

Thanks for the info guys as you can tell I'm not doing it to save my arrows on target range more so to get bh to fly better. I never thought of the metal bending in the pin nock that thought keeps me away from wanting to try them. Just seeing if anyone has had same issue as me and if\how they might have fixed it. I doubt most guys go to the extreme to tune each arrow but it gives me that much more confidence.

 

[5MilesBack]

It might just be inconsistent spine issues with the arrows.

 

[RosinBag]

The pins themselves bending is pretty rare in my experience. If I shoot a nock off and the pin itself shows damage I will replace the pin. I have never bent one that didn't show outward signs of damage.

As for accuracy, 80-90% of the top archers in the world shoot them over unibushing a or conventional. That alone should tell you something about the consistency.

 

[joehunter8301]

Doug do you glue yours in? Seems it would be tougher to pull them out if they did get damaged.

5miles it could possibly be a spine issue but I have never had that problem before with the same brand an style arrow which is why it leads me to think the last option I haven't ruled out yet is trying new nocks. Like I said each individual arrow is consistent it's just some consistently group right, some low left etc etc. and this is only from 20 yards and a few inches off center. I imagine if I backed up it would only group farther out from center...

 

[RosinBag]

I hot melt mine in. So if I have an issue I can take the pin bushing out and replace.

 

[5MilesBack]

If I shoot a nock off and the pin itself shows damage I will replace the pin.

To me that is a bigger pain than just replacing regular nocks that break. I've even put brand new pin bushings in that weren't perfectly straight from the factory. I'm not out to shoot a perfect field score with BH's, so if I can get them all in the same 4-6" circle out to 80 I count it good. Joe, I still think you got a bad batch of arrows. Find someone with a spine tester. My experience with inconsistent spine is exactly what you're describing......arrows impact off bullseye, but in the same places every time.

 

[joehunter8301]

Well I had the morning to get to the bottom of this frustration and I am a happy camper. I took the arrows that wouldn't fly good, pulled all the nocks shuffled em up an stuck em back in different arrows. Walla!! All of them flew great w bh. So by no means am I a tuning expert but it worked for me. No real answer to how that helped but if y'all wana chime in ur opinions I'll gladly listen. Hope if anyone comes across this issue they can use this to help them.

 

[RosinBag]

If all go into a 4"-6" group at 80 yards, I wouldn't change anything either.

The pin bushing still prevent damaging the area regardless of having to change the bushings every now and then. The nock bushings don't do anything to prevent damage, just a more precise fit for nock tolerances.

 

[OR Archer]

The nock bushings don't do anything to prevent damage, just a more precise fit for nock tolerances.

The only thing I have ever had damaged on shafts running unibushings are the nocks. Never had one crack or splinter from shooting groups. Covers the shaft just the same as a pin nock bushing.