I agree man. Vortex advertises the optical quality to be more enhanced than the vipers, acting as a middle ground between the vipers and razors, similar to the Kaibab. However, I think they're just tech-filled vipers lol.Looking forward to hearing about these. Would like to get some side by side reviews of the glass. They should be simalier optically to the Vipers, but always curious to hear more opinions.