New Jeeps Kaput in der Kreuzung?

[Billinsd]

Every few weeks there's another brand new jeep, empty with no driver, usually smack dab in the intersection with the flashers on? Is this just a San Diego phenomenon? Seems like over the past few months. Over the decades I've cringed at Jeeps, quality and reliability wise. However, I've never seen so many cars just fail, dead in an intersection. The photo I've attached of the Jeep is at the edge of the intersection. Usually, the fail several feet into the intersection. What's up?

 

[realunlucky]

I don't understand your point of this thread. Public service message that Jeep's are junk?
In contrast to your superb local observation I have rented multiple models of Jeep as a rental on my business travels and had exactly zero issues.
I personally wouldn't but another Chrysler product (yep a Jeep owner) but I also wouldn't start a bash thread on a product I've not personally used either.

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[Billinsd]

I don't understand your point of this thread.

I'm flabbergasted seeing 3 brand new jeeps broke down in or right next to intersections in the last couple months. Usually, you get some time to pull over to the side with car trouble. It's like coming to a stop makes the car fail. It's probably a coincidence? Wondering if anyone else has noticed? Brand spanking new jeeps too? Real bizarre? What would cause a brand new car to do that?

 

[realunlucky]

I'm flabbergasted seeing 3 brand new jeeps broke down in or right next to intersections in the last couple months. Usually, you get some time to pull over to the side with car trouble. It's like coming to a stop makes the car fail. It's probably a coincidence? Wondering if anyone else has noticed? Brand spanking new jeeps too? Real bizarre? What would cause a brand new car to do that?

New cars have auto shut off and restart I could see where an issue with that system could easily leave you stranded. Typically they don't shut off at stop signs though. I know a few people with 2018 and up Jeep's and they haven't told me any horror stories yet. Maybe it's the special California emissions package that adds that little extra something and disables them in the street.

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[CorbLand]

I'm flabbergasted seeing 3 brand new jeeps broke down in or right next to intersections in the last couple months. Usually, you get some time to pull over to the side with car trouble. It's like coming to a stop makes the car fail. It's probably a coincidence? Wondering if anyone else has noticed? Brand spanking new jeeps too? Real bizarre? What would cause a brand new car to do that?

Could be a lot of things ranging from bad quality to someone cant figure out you have to put it in park to start it. I have learned with vehicles that a lot of peoples opinions are from personal experience and thats not always good thing because people are stupid but dont like to admit it.

As far as Jeeps go, tread lightly with knocking on them with guys from Utah. If it says Jeep or Cummins on the side in Utah, its worth about 20% more than it should be...yes, this is meant as a joke...with a slight bit of truth.

 

[Billinsd]

As far as Jeeps go, tread lightly with knocking on them with guys from Utah. If it says Jeep or Cummins on the side in Utah, its worth about 20% more than it should be...yes, this is meant as a joke...with a slight bit of truth.

Jeeps are SUPER popular in San Diego too!! No other auto has as much after market stuff., which is my favorite thing about them. It's like the person is driving a manual, and stalled starting out at stop sign. Then they flooded it, trying to start it and just abandoned the car. However, I'd bet these three cars were automatics and they definitely have fuel injectors and computers.

 

[Billinsd]

New cars have auto shut off and restart I could see where an issue with that system could easily leave you stranded.

How in the world does that work? How would an auto shutoff get engaged?

 

[Billinsd]

I have learned with vehicles that a lot of peoples opinions are from personal experience and thats not always good thing because people are stupid but dont like to admit it.

That's very true and I'm guilty of basing my opinions too heavily on my personal experience and I hate to be wrong. However, there is nothing that I hate more than lying to myself or being a hypocrite. So, I take pains to limit that. I do listen intently to people when I believe they know what they are talking about. Like this forum has really great discussions and I learn a great deal about a lot of things, hunting and non hunting related.

 

[realunlucky]

How in the world does that work? How would an auto shutoff get engaged?

It's a federal emissions add on for new cars. Basically if the car is running and the brake is depressed for so long the car turns off and restarts when the brake disengages. None of my personal cars have this feature but every rental I gotten the last two years has it. Some you can turn it off but you have to push the button after everytime you restart the car or it defaults to auto shut off

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[Billinsd]

It's a federal emissions add on for new cars. Basically if the car is running and the brake is depressed for so long the car turns off and restarts when the brake disengages. None of my personal cars have this feature but every rental I gotten the last two years has it. Some you can turn it off but you have to push the button after everytime you restart the car or it defaults to auto shut off

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Bingo!!! I'll bet that's it!!!!!! Thanks

 

[Ndbowhunter]

The other day a guy in a Jeep couldn’t get it to start and he was first person to drive onto ferry. Didn’t think anything of it. Guess it’s a pattern.

 

[Billy Goat]

Stolen.

 

[skyler_2010]

You can "disable" the feature, the Chrysler vehicles have a secondary hood latch that is a safety feature for the stop start, all you have to do is unplug one of them and you will get a message for approximately 5 seconds on the cluster saying service stop start and it will never go into stop start mode till you plug it back in, no check engine lights no other issues, your remote start will even still work and if it doesn't plug that switch back in and unplug the other one.

It's a federal emissions add on for new cars. Basically if the car is running and the brake is depressed for so long the car turns off and restarts when the brake disengages. None of my personal cars have this feature but every rental I gotten the last two years has it. Some you can turn it off but you have to push the button after everytime you restart the car or it defaults to auto shut off

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[rob86jeep]

Can't speak for newer Jeeps dying, but most people don't buy Jeeps due to reliability. That's like complaining that your drag car won't start every morning. My Jeep is a purpose driven vehicle. I'm not really sure why you would buy a Jeep for commuting as they're not comfortable, they don't get good gas milage, they don't have a good maintenance track record, and their resale value isn't great. However, if you want to traverse the rubicon (or any other extreme trail, then it might be the vehicle for you.

 

[brushape]

Can't speak for newer Jeeps dying, but most people don't buy Jeeps due to reliability. That's like complaining that your drag car won't start every morning. My Jeep is a purpose driven vehicle. I'm not really sure why you would buy a Jeep for commuting as they're not comfortable, they don't get good gas milage, they don't have a good maintenance track record, and their resale value isn't great. However, if you want to traverse the rubicon (or any other extreme trail, then it might be the vehicle for you.

Haha do you consider a grand Cherokee a drag car? Or is it more of a purpose built Offroad machine? I’ve dated a handful of women driving jeeps the last few years and from my experience the current grand Cherokee is a total piece of shit.

Funny nobody has heard of the auto shutoff, lots of cars in ca are offered with the auto shutoff at a lower price they shutoff anytime the car comes to a complete stop and restart right when you touch the gas again. I personally have never driven one but them seem to work ok from what I’ve seen in traffic and what not


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[Billinsd]

However, if you want to traverse the rubicon (or any other extreme trail, then it might be the vehicle for you.

The ones I said abandoned were the mini SUVs. Brand new, no license plates. The Jeep Rubicon is SWEET looking!!! I'm envious of all the aftermarket stuff available for Jeeps!!

 

[Billinsd]

Funny nobody has heard of the auto shutoff, lots of cars in ca are offered with the auto shutoff at a lower price they shutoff anytime the car comes to a complete stop and restart right when you touch the gas again.

What's the purpose of the auto shutoff? It's hard for me to wrap my head around stuff like that. It's illegal to idle for more than 5 min in California I remember, or was that semi trucks? It's super crazy here.

 

[brushape]

What's the purpose of the auto shutoff? It's hard for me to wrap my head around stuff like that. It's illegal to idle for more than 5 min in California I remember, or was that semi trucks? It's super crazy here.

I’m pretty sure mostly for better gas mileage with city driving but there may be other factors


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[skyler_2010]

What's the purpose of the auto shutoff? It's hard for me to wrap my head around stuff like that. It's illegal to idle for more than 5 min in California I remember, or was that semi trucks? It's super crazy here.

It's for Corporate Average Fuel Economy credits. They are able to get a small amount of fuel economy back so they can still build the srt line of vehicles. Same reason we are getting a plugin hybrid Wrangler, renegade, and Cherokee in the next couple years,

 

[skyler_2010]

New cars have auto shut off and restart I could see where an issue with that system could easily leave you stranded. Typically they don't shut off at stop signs though. I know a few people with 2018 and up Jeep's and they haven't told me any horror stories yet. Maybe it's the special California emissions package that adds that little extra something and disables them in the street.

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I just read a TSB on a jeep today with a stop start issue and there is a problem with the door ajar switches, some of the latches fall into another TSB but there is some that there is no fix available. It can cause the vehicle to not auto start causing them to have to be manually started.