It has been my personal observation in the pursuit of a "lightweight hunting rifle" that when I get to the general weight that feels right to me a few ounces becomes inconsequential in the big picture - I had a Kimber Montana .308 with a Leupold 3x9x33 in Talley mounts (a pretty light set up) and was having trouble shooting it well (for me, an entirely new technique), I then tried an 84L Montana '06 (a bit better) then tried a Tikka T3 superlight '06 that I began shooting really well quickly - I've hunted with that Tikka now for 3 seasons and every single person who has had that rifle in their hands has been astounded by the lightness of it - My point is that it feels very very sveldt to me, even after 3 longish seasons and I shoot it very well - I put a Leupold VX3 3.5x10x40 on it and I'm a very happy hunter with my "lightweight rifle" which still gets the "holy shit ! this thing don't weight nothin' !" comments all the time - "lightweight is as lightweight does" ....... (BTW, I'm crippled up with bad knees but I still manage to cover some pretty rough ground up in the 7500' + areas)