Light and compact dialable scope?

[mvrk28]

I’d rather just get closer or pass on the shot than carry the extra weight. But I also still refuse to accept that it can’t be done. Especially because I don’t think there is a manufacturer out there that truly understands the demands of western mountain hunters’ optical needs. If they did, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

You would pass on the shot over 7 oz of weight in your pack? Is your name Nancy?

 

[Thomas11]

I just got a Zeiss 4x16x50 in the vx4 line. I know u said not 50 but this scope is much smaller than I anticipated. It’s a couple ounces lighter than the 4x16x44. This scope weighs like 21 oz and is very compact.

 

[204guy]

a lack of understanding of how to test or use a scope properly.

Can you elaborate on this? I'm not tracking how it's relevant to the thread.

 

[Wrench]

Turrets on a conquest gets it.

 

[204guy]

SDHNTR you're looking for a unicorn that doesn't yet exist. There's a definite demand, guys on this site would buy what you're describing by the truckload if it existed, it doesn't.

 

[SDHNTR]

SDHNTR you're looking for a unicorn that doesn't yet exist. There's a definite demand, guys on this site would buy what you're describing by the truckload if it existed, it doesn't.

I get that, but it should. Look at all the disruptive tech and products out there now that were once unthinkable. You naysayers out there probably never thought there would be a way you could have a computer that would fit in your pocket too! Do you guys still get your mail via the Pony Express? This over willingness to accept status quo is exactly what I’m talking about. The tech and materials are out there, I think.

Someone please prove to me, supported by scientific justification or quantitative economics, why this is impossible. People buy $2000-$3000 scopes all day long.

Take a VX3 3.5-10 or 4.5-14 as a baseline. How much more $$$ would it take to make it dial reliably? My bet is not much.

I’m perfectly willing to admit I’m all wet here. After all, I’m mostly a bow hunter. But I want an explanation with real proof and justification. Not someone trying to be an internet tough guy or just simply saying it can’t be done.

 

[SDHNTR]

You would pass on the shot over 7 oz of weight in your pack? Is your name Nancy?

My name is Nate actually. Nice to meet you. I’ve actually done just fine and have no problems passing shots. Most of my trophies and record book animals were shot inside of 30 yards actually. Nope I don’t want that 7 ounces on this gun. I don’t want 1 unnecessary ounce actually. Everything is a trade off, and I know myself and my hunting style. A few less ounces might mean better food or a better sleep system to keep me going longer. It might mean I get to the top of the saddle before the next guy. It might make me more sneaky and nimble. That’s the stuff that puts meat on the table. And while I would like a functioning dial for the off chance at an ethical longer shot, it’s far more important to me to be a better predator in the field. Fewer ounces helps to that end.

 

[204guy]

I'm not sure why you're getting angry at guys telling you what you want doesn't exist? You're free to startup your own optics company if it's that big of a deal. Or get a Leopold with a CDS and hope it tracks and rtz properly(it won't). I'm out.

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[mvrk28]

My name is Nate actually. Nice to meet you. I’ve actually done just fine and have no problems passing shots. Most of my trophies and record book animals were shot inside of 30 yards actually. Nope I don’t want that 7 ounces on this gun. I don’t want 1 unnecessary ounce actually. Everything is a trade off, and I know myself and my hunting style. A few less ounces might mean better food or a better sleep system to keep me going longer. It might mean I get to the top of the saddle before the next guy. It might make me more sneaky and nimble. That’s the stuff that puts meat on the table. And while I would like a functioning dial for the off chance at an ethical longer shot, it’s far more important to me to be a better predator in the field. Fewer ounces helps to that end.

I'm just busting your balls. I don't necessarily agree with your logic but if it is a matter of ounces then the Razor HD LH with kenton turret is probably the way to go. The other two options are a VX-5 HD 2-10x42 with CDS listed weight of 17.9 oz or Huskemaw Blue Diamond 3-12x42 which weighs like 21 oz or something but it's on a 30 mm tube.

 

[SDHNTR]

I'm just busting your balls. I don't necessarily agree with your logic but if it is a matter of ounces then the Razor HD LH with kenton turret is probably the way to go. The other two options are a VX-5 HD 2-10x42 with CDS listed weight of 17.9 oz or Huskemaw Blue Diamond 3-12x42 which weighs like 21 oz or something but it's on a 30 mm tube.

I appreciate your genuine attempt to help. Those are likely good compromises.

 

[SDHNTR]

I'm not sure why you're getting angry at guys telling you what you want doesn't exist? You're free to startup your own optics company if it's that big of a deal. Or get a Leopold with a CDS and hope it tracks and rtz properly(it won't). I'm out.

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No anger at all. I won’t lose a wink of sleep over this.

 

[ChrisAU]

We will have what we seek by the end of the next decade. Tech takes time.

 

[Rmauch20]

Its not light, or a 1 inch tube, or under 500.00, but they SWFA 3x9meets all the other things your looking for.

O/3 ain’t bad

 

[SDHNTR]

Its not light, or a 1 inch tube, or under 500.00, but they SWFA 3x9meets all the other things your looking for.

O/3 ain’t bad

Certainly does not need to be $500. I’d pay 3x that to check the right boxes! Which SWFA are you talking about?

 

[Rmauch20]

The SWFA SS 3x9x42.

SWFA 3-9x42 SS HD 30mm Riflescope

SWFA 3-9x42 SS HD 30mm Riflescope Details SKU: SS39X42MQ Finish: Matte Reticle: MIL-Quad Tube Diameter (mm): 30 Elevation Knob: Exposed Target (.1 MIL) Windage Knob: Exposed Target (.1 MIL) Parallax Setting: Fixed Focus Focal Plane: First

www.swfa.com

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[Wrench]

I'm telling you, I had what you want. Mine was 2-8×32 zeiss with turrets and a 3x9x40 with turrets. They're light, bright, solid and did very well on rtz for me. I ran mine on a ti rifle and pounded yotes and bigger to 800 with ease.

I still have a meopta (same scope) in 3.5-14 with turrets at 17oz.

 

[SDHNTR]

I'm telling you, I had what you want. Mine was 2-8×32 zeiss with turrets and a 3x9x40 with turrets. They're light, bright, solid and did very well on rtz for me. I ran mine on a ti rifle and pounded yotes and bigger to 800 with ease.

I still have a meopta (same scope) in 3.5-14 with turrets at 17oz.

Please tell me more! Zeiss Conquest? Were they aftermarket turrets?

 

[Wrench]

Please tell me more! Zeiss Conquest? Were they aftermarket turrets?

Zeiss custom shop. They were 50 ea IIRC.

 

[SDHNTR]

Zeiss custom shop. They were 50 ea IIRC.

I see Meopta Meopro makes a 3.5-10x44 that’s under 16 oz. I could put a Kenton turret on it. That’s weight I could live with, I suppose. Any comments on Meopta erector assembly durability and return to zero accuracy?

 

[Wrench]

They're exactlythe same. I have that scope too.