Increasing stove burn time

[JigStick]

Has anybody here ever dug a big hole under where their stove goes in their Tipi...and just used the 4 sides and top of a Seek outside or Kifaru box stove to basically increase the capacity of their stove to get longer burn times? I cant think of a reason it wouldn't work...unless water is pouring in under the tipi....

 

[Backpack Hunter]

No, my initial thoughts would be worrying about heat travel thru the ground, stability of the stove, and loose embers.
I have dug pit fires in a shelter before, but never with any of the lightweight flammable/melt able materials.

 

[swisski]

I've always thought increased burn time would be nice, but this idea never really crossed my mind.

Aside from seeming like a lot of additional work, I think it would mostly depend on your environment, type of soil your on, moisture content, etc. You would also just want to ensure the stove itself is super secure with this setup, especially since like with SO, the top/bottom pieces all help keep the stove assembled together. Other than that, I don't see why it wouldn't work.

Curious to know if anyone else has?

 

[JigStick]

The soil here in PA where I hunt is pretty easy to dig through. And I'm thinking the walls of the stove could be supported with loose shale that is readiky on the ground readily. I could mound a little gravel or dirt around the edges where the stove meets the ground to keep an air tight seal. The stove should still draft good. I can't imagine it taking me longer than 5min to dig a 12x12x6in hole.

 

[FreeRange]

If you wanted to run a SO without the bottom you'd probably have to get a second, sacrificial bottom from them and cut out the material in the middle to keep the corners and outer edge to keep the stove together. Can't imagine the stove would stay together for long with no bottom piece. Can't say how a kifaru stove would work trying that.

 

[Akicita]

Has anybody here ever dug a big hole under where their stove goes in their Tipi...and just used the 4 sides and top of a Seek outside or Kifaru box stove to basically increase the capacity of their stove to get longer burn times? I cant think of a reason it wouldn't work...unless water is pouring in under the tipi....

I'm going to make an educated guess here and say it wont work well unless you vent the pit with a Dakota hole.

In very cold conditions I will pile rocks under and around my stove. A couple of good stokes heats the rocks up nicely and they will radiate enough warmth to keep the chill off for quite some time after the stoke burns out. I have also been known to wrap a hot rock or two up in some clothing and stuff them in the bottom of my sleeping bag too.

 

[mfllood3800]

sounds like it might work, but in Utah if we did that in the Nat Forest we could get in trouble. One year they put a fire restriction on everyone including property owners. They told us we needed to dig the hole, line it with concrete, and insert a cut off of a 55 gl barrel type retainer, nested in cement.

What I am thinking of doing to increase burn time is just using wetter wood at night on a decent set of coals. Not a ton longer but maybe an extra 30 minutes of sleep.

 

[Mad Mountain Mike]

Most areas I'm in I wouldn't be able to dig more than a few inches before hitting granite. I have been able to increase burn times by replacing the flimsy door on my SO stove with a ridged piece of stainless, also using tin foil to seal air leaks and burning wood that is cut large enough to just fit in the door.

 

[Olbadae]

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[DWP51]

I'm going to make an educated guess here and say it wont work well unless you vent the pit with a Dakota hole.

In very cold conditions I will pile rocks under and around my stove. A couple of good stokes heats the rocks up nicely and they will radiate enough warmth to keep the chill off for quite some time after the stoke burns out. I have also been known to wrap a hot rock or two up in some clothing and stuff them in the bottom of my sleeping bag too.

What is that under the standard SO damper? With what looks like a keychain sized split ring and two orange things on it...

 

[colonel00]

I haven't really messed with extended burn times but I have always wanted to stack up rocks all around the stove as a makeshift fireplace. The really bad thing about these stoves is they don't retain heat at all. The rocks should act as a heat sink and retain some of that warmth for a while. I've just never gotten around to trying this.

 

[Akicita]

What is that under the standard SO damper? With what looks like a keychain sized split ring and two orange things on it...

@DWP51 - That is the Seek Outside Spark Arrestor Ultra. It's configured like a damper but has a screen instead of the damper plate. It's designed to easily knock off suet buildup from the screen by spinning the handle without having to disassemble the pipe and damper. The key chain ring has two fishing weights on it and is hung from the the handle to ensure the screen is in the proper position during burns. I usually give it a spin or two before re-stoking to ensure I get an efficient draft.

 

[DWP51]

Thank you sir! Another piece of gear I am bound to get soon.

 

[Derek0525]

@DWP51 - That is the Seek Outside Spark Arrestor Ultra. It's configured like a damper but has a screen instead of the damper plate. It's designed to easily knock off suet buildup from the screen by spinning the handle without having to disassemble the pipe and damper. The key chain ring has two fishing weights on it and is hung from the the handle to ensure the screen is in the proper position during burns. I usually give it a spin or two before re-stoking to ensure I get an efficient draft.

I thought about ordering one of the new spark arrestors does it work pretty good as its designed? I usually clean mine everyday after use wich isn't too much of a pain but would be nice to not have to pull it out. Forgot to clean it one day and had a tent full of smoke.

 

[530Chukar]

The rocks is are probably he best thing you can do. When we take the wall tent out I will bring a bunch of fireplace bricks and stack them in and on top of the stove to help retain heat longer. Many times once the stove burns out and is cool to the touch the stones on top will still have a lot of heat in them.


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