Floor less and wives?

Cranny

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Trying to talk my wife into a floorless shelter but getting some resistance. She ask what about bugs? What about dirt? Won't it be colder? Ect..

I'm wondering what the experiences are with the significant others and floorless. Do your wives like them? Hate them? How do you cope with the bugs? Dirt?...

Thanks.
 
My wife loved the stove and the ability to stay warm but complained about the lack of floor and bugs. She's a city girl so take it for what it's worth.

I'm currently going through a divorce so maybe the floorless feature played a role in that ;)
 
Mine was apprehensive at first... But really likes all the size to put everything in there with you, the ability to walk in with boots on without getting dirt on everything, the ability to bring the dog without making a giant mess, and likes the idea of a stove (but i dont have one yet.)

I would say get her a lightweight bivy like the ti goat kestrel instead of a ground sheet. Its only a few ounces heavier than a groundsheet but offers protection from bugs if needed. Where I go we dont have bug problems too bad.

Joe
 
Appreciate all the replies. The ability to have a stove is one of my selling points so far as she is always cold. I will keep prodding her till she gives in... Hehe. Another question. Best floorless 4 man shelter? Have 2 kids and a dog that like to come along but, want something my son and I can pack in on hunts also..
 
Appreciate all the replies. The ability to have a stove is one of my selling points so far as she is always cold. I will keep prodding her till she gives in... Hehe. Another question. Best floorless 4 man shelter? Have 2 kids and a dog that like to come along but, want something my son and I can pack in on hunts also..

If you want 4 actual hunters and gear, and a stove, and wood, I'd suggest an 8 man. You can also use for two, but it'll be a palace.
 
I use a vertex 6.5 from ti goat and really like it. I know its not a Kifaru, but significantly cheaper. Its been perfect for 2 and a 90 pound dog with TONS of extra space. I would not suggest going much smaller with your crew.

Joe
 
You can use a few ground clothes/tyvek sheets in whatever arrangement you want to take care of the dirt issue, just leave a place for the stove and woodpile open.

If she is afraid of bugs on her when she is sleeping then get here bivy with a mess face cover like some suggested above.

You mentioned you and your wife, you and two kids and a dog, and you and a son in terms of the size of your shelter. The size of a shelter is based on how many sleeping bags you can fit inside of the footprint, so a four man tent will accomodate four sleeping bags but nothing else; no packs, no stove, no wood pile, no space for the dog or dirty boots. You should plan on at least 1.5 times the space for each person, preferably 2.0 times the space if you like room. A stove and woodpile will take up 1.0 sleeping bags area but use 1.5 for a safety buffer.

For you and your wife and a stove plus some room (which she will like) I would suggest a five person shelter as a minimum. the GoLite Shangri-La 5 or the Kifaru 4-man or 6-man tipis would work. SeekOutside and TiGoat also makes tipi or pyramid shaped shelter that would work. Just make sure you get a stove jack (the opening in the tent wal the stovepipe goes through) when you buy one. A Google search on pyramid shelters or mid shelters will also give you more names from backpacking shelter manufacturers.

If you want to take the whole family then you would need something like a 12-man shelter but that would be expensive and heavy. Getting another five-person shelter would probably work better all around. Especially since you could put the dog in with the kids if you wanted.

larry
 
I have the wife and 2 kids plus dog for backpack camping spring and summer. The son and I would use it for hunting season. I'm thinking the 4 man tipi would work since my oldest will be out of the house in a couple years and has no time for her old ass parents anyway..lol
 
Mine doesn't understand the floorless concept either, but we don't camp much together. Floorless is great with pets though.

My advice is to start with something like a Big Agnes Copper Spur UL2 or UL3 that has an option to just pitch it with the canopy and footprint (no nest) and ease her into the idea of going floorless.
 
I am totally sold on floorless, but I admit I was reluctant initially. Using an enclosed nest with a bathtub floor (we use one that only encloses our sleeping area, leaving plenty of floorless area still) helped me feel more comfortable. We still usually use the same nest (bugs here can be atrocious) but on the later season trips where we have gone without it I haven't minded at all. It's all in what your get used to I suppose. Being able to walk into the shelter with muddy/wet/bloody boots and gear is a huge selling point for me, and the majority of our trips a floorless shelter gets the nod.
 
The ability to have heat along with the use of a TI goat bivy to keep out bugs sold my wife.

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I followed the Moffat's lead and picked up a small nest that takes up half of my Oware 9x9. Best of both worlds - open area to hang out, cook, not worry about muddy boots, etc but a enclosed area to sleep. When solo I still rock the TiGoat bivy but when I added up the weight and cost of a second bivy (an idea my wife was less than thrilled with anyway) compared to adding a nest it just made more sense. Plus the wife is happy so you know what that means...
 
If you want 4 actual hunters and gear, and a stove, and wood, I'd suggest an 8 man. You can also use for two, but it'll be a palace.

+1 Don't try to cram the wife, two kids and a pup into a 4 man!!!! I have a 4 and an 8 and the 8 would be tight with 4 people, stove and pup. Doable, if two of the people are tiny.

IMO, when it comes to capacity ratings on floorless shelters w/ stove, you can cut it in half. A 4 sleeps 2 and an 8 sleeps 4 max.
 
I don't know jack about these 8 man palaces. You pack these in on your backs? Or are the next to your trucks.

I see them packed on mules in the sierras.
 
Found a used shangri la 5 with the nest that should be perfect for the family and my fall hunts. Can't wait for it to arrive in the mail!
 
I don't know jack about these 8 man palaces. You pack these in on your backs? Or are the next to your trucks.

I see them packed on mules in the sierras.

I packed my 8 man into areas. Not bad by myself. Even easier if you split up the weight between a few people.
 
We have a 8 man kifaru tipi and large stove. My wife loves the floor less idea. No taking boots off. No sweeping out the tent. And a stove for drying things out, she's a very happy camper. With our two teenage boys and a black lab I wouldn't want anything smaller. We use tyvek sheets just big enough for our individual pads and gear.
 
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