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[Encore4me]

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[Marbles]

 

[roosiebull]

I’m intrigued ….

Just kidding

 

[blkqi]

Thread 'Avery vs. JvB - Podcast Back and Forths'

Nov 8, 2024

Am I the only one who's noticed this? The two keep taking shots at each other every week. I think it's hilarious and I wish that they would get together on a podcast and sort it out.

It started a month or so ago. I know that he was brought up on the S2H podcast in terms of "authority" on game in relation to cartridge selection. Then I heard JvB talk some smack about "so called experts" using the 77tmk out of a 223. Then it was mentioned on S2H just recently within the past couple episodes.

The most recent release of the backcountry podcast JvB was reading viewer questions and read one...

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[Marbles]

Well the first two comments have been kind of sarcastic, this isn’t meant to be confrontational, it’s just another view on a topic discussed on this forum. Please listen to the podcast before commenting or don’t comment at all. We are all hunters trying to learn as much as we can about our hobby.

The title is pretentious enough that I'm unlikely to waste 1.5 hours of my life on it. This topic has been beat to death on this site.

W. D. M. Bell summed up this argument in his book in the 1950s based on experience that is now over 100 years old.

If you can show me where the podcasters have more combined dangerous game experience than Bell, I'll consider. Until then, I'll consider them to be the nervous types, who must take any offered shot, Bell describes.

Anyway, I took your edit to add a lecture as an invitation to leave the and stick my oar in. I was trying to be polite, but please read other threads on this site, or don't create them at all....

 

[Marbles]

Guess I should have explained that the last part about reading other threads was simply ment to mirror rhetoric, not to be taken seriously. I think both the mirror and the original argument are flawed, they are designed to set a bar and shut down conversation.

Even if I feel the horse is dead, the conversation can have value. But, part of exploring a topic is taking push back.

 

[TaperPin]

Apparently delete does not equal nothingness. I’m even more curious what the original post was about. I hope it’s poo pooing how easy it is to hit the broad side of a big game animal.

Pops enjoyed the philosophy of Bell and back in the late 70s he and some friends killed everything in Alaska with the 17 Rem. With pockets full of oil pipeline cash, pill bottles full of speed, and probably some work camp hookers, they proceeded to kill just about everything in Alaska with the new little 17 cal cartridge in a shiny new Remington 700 BDL. Working 14 days on and 14 days off left a lot of time to hunt all over the state. If you can’t sneak up close enough to brain something with a modern rifle you need to wipe the sand out of your bikini and get with the program. At the end of all his hunting adventures he said the one thing that stood out is how heavy a water soaked brown bear hide is.

Bell wasn’t wrong, but few folks in North America actually take his advice, and those that do are mostly misguided, despite a family resemblance.

 

[Marbles]

Apparently delete does not equal nothingness. I’m even more curious what the original post was about. I hope it’s poo pooing how easy it is to hit the broad side of a big game animal.

Originally it was just a link to this https://backcountryhunting.libsyn.c...-terminal-ballistics-specialist-nathan-foster

Then got edited to include what I quoted above.