Dangerous Factory Ammunition (WWYD?)

[TxLite]

Reach out to the manufacturer.

Also, post up the box and lot number. Why are you protecting the manufacturer instead of helping others that may have potentially dangerous ammo?

 

[Spence1875]

I had a situation where in extreme cold, -18 F, caribou hunting, I fired a factory round and went to chamber a second round, bolt gun, and it was jammed.

Took me a second and to figure out what happened. The bullets had a factory coating and I guess the cold affected it. Some of The bullets in the mag slipped forward out of the case and my mag box had lots of powder in it.

Luckily I didn’t need a follow up. Lol

It was years ago but was Winchester. I kept the cases and bullets. Contacted them and sent in the two boxes I had. They thanked me and sent me a case of replacement ammo.

I was happy. Stuff happens.

 

[WCB]

Call the manufacturer...give them lot and load number. I would also call the firearm company and start a file with them.

Did the other guy report the information to the ammo manufacturer? Curious also how you just randomly got contacted by another guy with the same lot# as you.

Also, bad move in general to pull apart the ammunition. You tampered with "evidence" and technically the ammo company has nothing to bring back and test as they should. Not saying your findings aren't correct but...

 

[TxLite]

Also, bad move in general to pull apart the ammunition. You tampered with "evidence" and technically the ammo company has nothing to bring back and test as they should. Not saying your findings aren't correct but...

The way I read it is that he weighed the remaining loaded rounds and found 11gr variance

 

[Spence1875]

Agreed that if u pulled apart all the remaining ammo they may not cover it.

 

[WV Mountaineer]

I’m kinda curious. A grain of powder in a compressed 30/06 load will push the average fps up around 90. To be that much faster, in a similarly loaded caliber with a compressed load, you’d had to been 8-10 grains heavy.


I’m sure factory ammo isn’t compressed as frequently as handloads in certain calibers. But, my dad made this point to me 35 years ago when I started handloading. A compressed load prevents over charging. And, anytime in any caliber, that you are shooting loaded rounds that aren’t compressed, you run this risk.

Just FYI

 

[Marbles]

Your protection of the ammo company could kill someone reading this thread because the go out and blow a gun up today.

It is not about "not dragging them through the mud" at this point, it is about safety.

The company is run by adults (hopefully), they chose their equipment and QC practices, they get to choose how they handle this. You get to choose if you share potentially life saving information or if potential someone leaves the range in a bag and the manufacturer is forever shut down as the result of a wrongful death lawsuit.

Any manufacturer worth a damn would be publicly sharing the information within minutes of hearing from you. If they don't, than they deserve to be shut down.

 

[displacedtexan]

Never know until you ask. I know of a few guns that have been replaced by ammo manufacturers

I wasn't saying it as "not on them"

"ask them what they'll do"

 

[WCB]

The way I read it is that he weighed the remaining loaded rounds and found 11gr variance

Yeah...I agree with that...for some reason my brain inserted "pulled apart" or 11 grains "more powder". a few grains can be explained away my bullet or case weight but hard to come up with 11 for sure....

 

[hunting1]

I won't mention the manufacturer but I had a rifle blow up and they went through a process. They disclosed it was a bad lot and way over pressure. I could have gone legal on them but after they quit pointing fingers at the gun maker they made it right. The gun manufacturer did a full review as well. In the end, the ammo company bought the parts for their show and tell.

 

[TxLite]

Yeah...I agree with that...for some reason my brain inserted "pulled apart" or 11 grains "more powder". a few grains can be explained away my bullet or case weight but hard to come up with 11 for sure....

11gr powder would definitely make things spicy.

Depending on the brass I’ve seen as much as 43gr variance in brass by itself. That was Hornady 7 rem mag precision hunter. Both were from the same box.

That’s when I started buying ADG instead of using Hornady.

 

[notamos]

Reach out to the manufacturer.

Also, post up the box and lot number. Why are you protecting the manufacturer instead of helping others that may have potentially dangerous ammo?

Honestly, I hadn't though about this aspect of the issue. Here's the details.

The ammo is Nosler-brand "Trophy Grade Long-Range Ammunition" in 28 Nosler, 175gr ABLR. The lot number is 1838813/2237 (on the back, above the barcode). Purchased from Midway. This ammunition should NOT be fired.

I've been in contact with Nosler. I'll keep this thread updated as the issue moves forward w/ them.

I did not open/disassemble the ammunition. I threw the remaining 16 loaded rounds on a scale. We have a few other boxes (not sure of the lot yet) that I'm going to weigh as well.

 

[notamos]

I weighed (2) more boxes from the same lot. First box, 3 rounds were ~11gr heavier than the rest. Second box, 1 round was ~11gr heavier than the rest.

I weight (2) boxes from different lots. Out of 40 rounds, they were all within 1.5-2gr of each other. Obviously, this lot has something really odd going on with it.

 

[Osprey87]

Not to pile on Nosler factory ammo, however last year I purchased there trophy grade accubonds for my tikka 6.5cm. First round I fired instantly knew something was wrong, heavy recoil and bolt stuck. Not a single other round in that box would chamber (had no intentions of firing after the first round) I contacted nosler an never heard a peep from them

 

[mi650]

I had a problem with blown primers with some Fed. Premium 260 a few years ago. A couple pics sent to Federal, and they sent me a check for full retail, along with a shipping label. Also they said they did not make any 260 ammo safe for use in a semi-auto.


Anyway, good luck and let us know what Nosler has to say.

 

[Ucsdryder]

I had a problem with blown primers with some Fed. Premium 260 a few years ago. A couple pics sent to Federal, and they sent me a check for full retail, along with a shipping label. Also they said they did not make any 260 ammo safe for use in a semi-auto.


Anyway, good luck and let us know what Nosler has to say.

Did you really shoot ALL of them once the first primer blew?!

 

[TxLite]

Did you really shoot ALL of them once the first primer blew?!

How else would you know if they’d all blow or it was a one off?? You just gotta risk it sometimes

 

[go_deep]

Had Winchester rounds for a .243 years ago that after shooting made it hard as heck to open the bolt and eject the round. I think we shot 2 rounds from one box, then 1 round from a different box and stopped. Round would bolt in nice and smooth, hard as heck to get out once they were shot. Winchester sent me a check for about to the penny of the boxes I had, paid shipping label to send them back, and I don't think I've ever bought Winchester ammo since.

 

[displacedtexan]

How else would you know if they’d all blow or it was a one off?? You just gotta risk it sometimes

I see that you too are a scholar!

 

[Luked]

First box of 7mm-08 i bought for my wifes rifle was a hornaday something or other, not sure what series they were. 139gr and had 3-4 out of 20 blow the primer out.
all other Hornaday rounds we have shot through it were fine.