CWD positive in the Flat Tops

[AG8]

At any rate, you are right about one thing. It’s up to each of us.

 

[Newtosavage]

Lemme guess…. You already got your booster shot too right? Lol

Lemme guess, you think Covid will be over by Easter too right? LOL

 

[Newtosavage]

If you aren’t willing to eat CWD meat, and you willingly hunt in a known CWD area and say you won’t eat the meat if it tests positive, you shouldn’t be hunting there. Would you rather have a prion in portions of a cervid body most people don’t even consume and has not one single case of human transfer or store bought meat packed full of antibiotics, hormones, and that fed on pesticide soaked grains?

Call me crazy but I’ll take my chances with the free range stuff.

I 100% agree that if you're not willing to eat CWD meat, you have no business hunting in a unit that's had positive tests.

 

[cnelk]

Lemme guess, you think Covid will be over by Easter too right? LOL

Covid will be over when people quit drinking the Kool-Aid

 

[Stalker69]

So then it sounds like you are in fact a processor yourself. Who is then actively denigrating those who use processors??

I would not say we are a processor, but yes we process several animals for our selves and friends and friends of friends. We try to get them all to partake in the processing so they can feel confident to do it themselves. Some times it’s a one time deal and they don’t hunt again. Most find it’s far easier then they thought. It for sure is not the “ fun” part of hunting, which is big reason many prefer to pay others to do it, but it’s what it takes to get it to your plate, which is the reason we hunt, right ?

 

[Stalker69]

Covid will be over when people quit drinking the Kool-Aid

Kinda like measles, small pox, shingles and even cancer, huh. Sounds like you must know a cure for every thing.

 

[cnelk]

Kinda like measles, small pox, shingles and even cancer, huh. Sounds like you must know a cure for every thing.

Stick to processing meat. You’ll be ahead

 

[Stalker69]

I’d rather be the trigger man, myself, Richard.

 

[AG8]

I would not say we are a processor, but yes we process several animals for our selves and friends and friends of friends. We try to get them all to partake in the processing so they can feel confident to do it themselves. Some times it’s a one time deal and they don’t hunt again. Most find it’s far easier then they thought. It for sure is not the “ fun” part of hunting, which is big reason many prefer to pay others to do it, but it’s what it takes to get it to your plate, which is the reason we hunt, right ?

What? I’m more confused now. You have friends and/or friends of friends routinely bringing you rotten meat and abandoning it? And you still associate with these people? Besides that, you already referred to them as customers and referenced that it would be cheaper for them to leave some in the field. That would imply they are paying you. As you said:

‘Many each year that have been so mishandled in the field we refuse them, some to the point maggots are crawling on them, customers toss them in trash I am sure. Some there is more of the animal( meat) that must be left in the field then what they bring in. I am pretty sure it’s because it costs less to process less meat.’

So are they customers or friends or friends? This story is getting worse.

 

[Next Ridge]

I 100% agree that if you're not willing to eat CWD meat, you have no business hunting in a unit that's had positive tests.

Holy shit. Just because a unit is flagged doesn’t mean all or even “most” animals carry CWD. No one should be expected to be “willing” to eat CWD infected meat.

 

[5MilesBack]

Lemme guess, you think Covid will be over by Easter too right? LOL

Just like the Flu virus, it comes with peaks and valleys but that doesn't stop most of us from going about our lives and daily routines........however the government has been putting a hindrance on being able to freely do that. The problem isn't whether Covid will be over or not, the problem is what the government will continue to do.....and what new ways they'll come up with to "try" to control the people.

Remove the government from the equation, and all we have is another virus. And what do people do when confronted with a risk.......they do a risk assessment and make choices and decisions that best suit their needs and situation without being corralled by a controlling party. Of course, if we removed the government from the equation, we probably wouldn't even have this virus to deal with.

 

[jmez]

FYI there was a no such thing as a negative CWD test.

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[Stalker69]

True

FYI there was a no such thing as a negative CWD test.

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True, they cover there ass by saying it’s not detectable at this time.

 

[jmez]

Not covering their ass. Still don't know enough to classify as negative. They have yet to define a negative animal.

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[Stalker69]

They don’t know at what stage they can detect it, I guess it takes clusters of the prions to gather before they can even see it, they are so small. They don’t know if it can or will jump the species barrier, and that is why they don’t want to give a negative test, protecting their ass as I said. You know if all of a sudden they start testing people and positive results come back, the law suites that would follow if they had claimed people's animals had tested negative for years.

 

[Stalker69]

What? I’m more confused now. You have friends and/or friends of friends routinely bringing you rotten meat and abandoning it? And you still associate with these people? Besides that, you already referred to them as customers and referenced that it would be cheaper for them to leave some in the field. That would imply they are paying you. As you said:

‘Many each year that have been so mishandled in the field we refuse them, some to the point maggots are crawling on them, customers toss them in trash I am sure. Some there is more of the animal( meat) that must be left in the field then what they bring in. I am pretty sure it’s because it costs less to process less meat.’

So are they customers or friends or friends? This story is getting worse.

Not sure how deep I have to go to explain it to you, but I will try. So my dad processed animals ( and ran a smoker) for a butcher shop here in town, through the 60s-90s. ( when he passed) We always butchered friends and friends of friends animals for them. And we still do it the same way. Many wanted to help with the process, and learn to do it them selves. Well we get “ new” people that would like us to do there animals from time to time, and those are generally the ones that have not taken care of the meat in the field. So is it a business, no, it’s a group of friends helping each other process their animals each year. Several of us have grinders and stuffers and such, and when the time comes we get together and cut meat and drink beer. Many people don’t want to help with their animals. So we take care of it, (customers I guess is what I will call them, as they are not helping with the process, some it’s the first we have time we have seen them, if that is ok to call them that, not sure what else to call them) we really just charge enough to cover the supplies,( paper, Saran Wrap, tape, vacuum bags ) and the beer of course. Does that help you understand ? Make sense? Need more ?

 

[AG8]

Not sure how deep I have to go to explain it to you, but I will try. So my dad processed animals ( and ran a smoker) for a butcher shop here in town, through the 60s-90s. ( when he passed) We always butchered friends and friends of friends animals for them. And we still do it the same way. Many wanted to help with the process, and learn to do it them selves. Well we get “ new” people that would like us to do there animals from time to time, and those are generally the ones that have not taken care of the meat in the field. So is it a business, no, it’s a group of friends helping each other process their animals each year. Several of us have grinders and stuffers and such, and when the time comes we get together and cut meat and drink beer. Many people don’t want to help with their animals. So we take care of it, (customers I guess is what I will call them, as they are not helping with the process, some it’s the first we have time we have seen them, if that is ok to call them that, not sure what else to call them) we really just charge enough to cover the supplies,( paper, Saran Wrap, tape, vacuum bags ) and the beer of course. Does that help you understand ? Make sense? Need more ?

Yes it does make sense. You are charging people to process game. Period. Profiting or otherwise is a matter of your perspective. Money is changing hands for a service in which the ‘customer’ is not otherwise taking part. Congrats on your side job as a processor!
I really don’t care about that. What I do care about are people such as yourself taking a broad brush and acting as if anyone who uses a processor is somehow less worthy as a hunter. Yes, I know you repeated specifically that you were not trying to sound superior etc. I’m just here to tell you that is exactly how you sound, and your point that hunters who choose that route should just as well pay someone else to shoot it is outrageous and insulting. That’s all. And yes, like many here I go both routes depending on the situation.

To the OP, sorry to have contributed to the derailment of your thread. Just can’t stand that attitude when the subject of processing comes around…

 

[MuleyFever]

Covid will be over when people quit drinking the Kool-Aid

I knew that damn Kool-Aid Man was always up to no good and could not be trusted.

 

[Stalker69]

Yes it does make sense. You are charging people to process game. Period. Profiting or otherwise is a matter of your perspective. Money is changing hands for a service in which the ‘customer’ is not otherwise taking part. Congrats on your side job as a processor!
I really don’t care about that. What I do care about are people such as yourself taking a broad brush and acting as if anyone who uses a processor is somehow less worthy as a hunter. Yes, I know you repeated specifically that you were not trying to sound superior etc. I’m just here to tell you that is exactly how you sound, and your point that hunters who choose that route should just as well pay someone else to shoot it is outrageous and insulting. That’s all. And yes, like many here I go both routes depending on the situation.

To the OP, sorry to have contributed to the derailment of your thread. Just can’t stand that attitude when the subject of processing comes around…

Not sure what to tell you, you obviously feel guilty of something. I will say it again and maybe it will sink in, I ( as in myself) feel that processing the animal is just as much a part of the hunt as pulling the trigger, setting up camp, scouting, driving, freezing and what ever else we endure to kill the animal, and taking care of it after the kill is NOT the fun part, the excitement of the hunt is over, but really until it’s in the freezer and ready for consumption, the hunt is NOT OVER. You can pay some one for any one of the “ steps” or all of them,( even pulling the trigger, or killing it ) that is all I am saying. Sorry didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers, Maybe the way I write, I come across blunt or trying to be superior, I am not. I pay others to do many things, I can’t or don’t want to do myself. But cutting up your animal, is really not that hard to do, that’s all I am saying. In a long winded way. Many times money does not actually change hands, some “ pay for it” in other ways, beer, buying the paper and tape or vacuum bags, had a couple guys give us knives, and giving them to us to “ restock “. Even had them do our wives hair, nails or what ever “ on trade” . Not sure why you are so concerned about it though. Hope all your hunts are successful. Op I am sorry this got derailed also. AG8 feel free to pm me if you want ( need ) to say more.