Black Nitride vs Cerakote

[wind gypsy]

Absolutely on nitride treating action but primarily if the manufacturer does it. I'm not well versed in the process but i've read that the metallurgical properties of the steel need to be known to do it properly. Action manufacturers know the properties so i trust them to do it right more than a one off action being sent in. Pass on cerakoting action, especially bolt/raceway. Nitride treated is a feature i look for in custom actions. Even if the black finish is removed, you still have steel properties that are more corrosion resistant after being nitrided.

I'd skip nitriding a barrel or at least do more research into it. There seems to be mixed consensus on it.

 

[Nine Banger]

Does anyone offer silver nitriding as an aftermarket activity?

That would make a nice Tikka.

My K80 bangs around in the back of my truck and has been rained on and dropped a few times out of golf carts and looks still great.

 

[Alex Genereux]

What about cerakote the outside of a nitrided action?

 

[WeiserBucks]

What about cerakote the outside of a nitrided action?

It can be done, but not necessary.

 

[Choupique]

I've turned into a huge fan of paint. Its super easy to touch up or strip off entirely if you change your mind. Good prep and good application gets you 90% of the durability of fancy finishes at 0.1% of the cost.

Not to mention, a paint job with some war scars looks way cooler than a nice pretty fancy safe queen finish.

 

[Elkhuntinfool78]

Thanks for all the replies I will be going with the nitride finish

 

[khuber84]

Cerakote is okay outside the action. Inside and bolt you want nitride or Ionbond dlc. I have been wanting to try a nitride barrel for a bit, perhaps one my high volume 6br prs trainer barrels or a 65cm. Something that's gonna get shot a lot. See if the nitride really helps for any extra barrel life or less throat movement, or less fouling.

 

[bpitcher]

I'm curious as to who here has had a barrel done and what your experience was with it after.

I talked with PVA the other day and his answer was basically: "If your barrel is shooting well, don't mess with it because you're taking a risk of altering things."

I'm going to be sending off a couple actions and I'd like to send the barrels since they would fit in the batch, but obviously I don't want to pay to make some tomato stakes.

 

[nm.otter]

Blaser uses plasma nitriding on their barrels. I'd trust that.

 

[BBob]

Light gloss, satin finish.

Nitride: That all depends on what material and grit you use for the initial blasting. I've done a range experimenting to see what you get. It can range from satin to pretty course and flat. Satin leans a touch bluish and course looks more blackish to my eye. Different steels done in the same batch can come out a different color as well. I've nitrided a BAT with the same grit for all the parts and the bolt handle and action body do not match in color.

 

[BBob]

What about cerakote the outside of a nitrided action?

Plenty of people do it if you want a different color on the exterior.

Also if done right (applied properly i.e., very thin) Cerakote P-109 Micro Slick on a bolt can work well. Not as slick as nitride but pretty good. It will eventually wear and the slickness will start to go away.

When the black of nitride wears off the hard properties within the metal remain so it'll still stay slick.

 

[TaperPin]

Does anyone offer silver nitriding as an aftermarket activity?

That would make a nice Tikka.

My K80 bangs around in the back of my truck and has been rained on and dropped a few times out of golf carts and looks still great.

An industrial hard chrome looks a lot like a matte nickel or the finish on a stainless dial caliper, but hard as woodpecker lips. Before everyone made stainless actions it was the finish of choice for wet weather. Armaloy did a few of my receivers and I think the results are better than stainless. It’s much much harder than stainless so galling isn’t a concern and instead metal to metal contact of the bolt is rather smooth and not “sticky”. Aluminum can also be finished so the entire gun including scope mounts and bottom metal all match.

 

[wind gypsy]

I'm curious as to who here has had a barrel done and what your experience was with it after.

I talked with PVA the other day and his answer was basically: "If your barrel is shooting well, don't mess with it because you're taking a risk of altering things."

I'm going to be sending off a couple actions and I'd like to send the barrels since they would fit in the batch, but obviously I don't want to pay to make some tomato stakes.

There's a fair bit of input on accurate shooter. Some guys are saying you want to break in barrels before sending off, some said the bore dimensions changed a bit depending on the blank, but a lot of folks with favorable outcomes too.

I'd maybe consider it more if I burned through a bunch of barrels and could send in a decent sized batch but that is not the case.

 

[khuber84]

A local smith to me builds all of Hammer bullets test rigs. They do ridiculous shit, way overbore. This smith has them shoot 10 rounds down the barrel, the they are cleaned to perfection and then sent in for nitride. I'm tempted to try it out with a 65cm or something and regularly check throat erosion every 200 rounds. I typically see 002-003 movement per 100 rounds of fire in prs/nrl style shooting.

 

[DapperDan]

Curious as to why you Cerakote the barrels as I was told it was ok to nitride the barrel as well? Just for looks or is there a concern for accuracy?

If you’re running a carbon fiber then cerekote.


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[greyghostnw]

Or just bead blast