Bivy with Shangri La 3?

[bbell]

Hello All,
Thought I would ask the pros. If I got a shangri la3 and used it with just the shell would I have to use a bivy? At least weight wise if I had to get a bivy I could just get a borah bivy and tarp and be under 20oz and have a pretty good shelter I think. What is your experience with this shelter? Bag is gonna be a EE quilt. I do like the option of a wood stove at some point. But have limited funds so would like the most bang for my buck. Also I archery hunt in western oregon. Thanks.

Brandon

 

[muleman]

I have a SL3 and use a bivy. I sleep on a long wide pad and and often touch the sides. So the 9oz Katabatic Gear bivy is insurance to keep my down quilt dry.

If I were to put a stove in a SL3 I would consider doing it like in this post.
http://www.rokslide.com/forums/show...-Installation!&p=109722&viewfull=1#post109722

I personally think that for the weight difference knowing you want a stove going forward I would go with the SL5. It has minimal weight difference in the fly vs the SL3 and would provide you more room if you install a stove. This IMHO would give you better bang for your buck than the SL3 with stove. Lots of other options for stove ready shelters too.

Here is another thread discussing a stove in the SL3.
http://www.rokslide.com/forums/showthread.php?2806-Stove-jack-on-a-Golite-SL3

 

[Daniel_M]

Unless it's 100% solo and I was single with zero intentions of hunting with someone else...

Couple thoughts.....I recently delved into an SL5 and it is AWESOME! Luke_M was kind enough to sell off his SL5 nest for a great deal, in fact I owe a few Growlers on this one!! For the weight difference of about 20oz, the SL5 would give you 30sqft of more space. I personally think the SL3 would be undersized for a stove considering the sqft of interior space lost. Real estate goes quick but the SL5 is a palace

We plan to upgrade the nest to a custom BWD Pyranet2 @ about 20oz total weight which gives us almost 40sqft of mudroom, space for gear or the dogs a place to sleep.

My SL5 fly kit is right at 3#.
29oz flysheet
12oz centerpole, can sub for a trekking pole with a jack shaft (see Bearpaw wilderness for that)
another 7oz for stakes and guy lines. IIRC it's 24 stakes but I am not outfitted for a complete guy'ing, just on 4 sides using the center guy lines.

 

[Backpack Hunter]

Don't really need a biy unless you just want one. I'm 6'2", and have to position myself very carefully and try not to touch my head or feet to the sidewalls....doesn't always work. Having said that though, I don't think I have ever used a bivy with it.

 

[bbell]

Thank you for the thoughts. There is so many choices it can be confusing. If there isnt enough room in the shangri la3 with stove I am thinking that a tarp and bivy would be better and then get a tent/stove setup later down the road. Most of my hunting is early season anyways.

 

[gotllamas]

I would go with the shangri la5. The 3 would be great as solo but that is it, no stove. The five will give you a lot more room for everything and a stove down the road. I use a piece of Tyzek as a ground cloth. The added wieght of the bivy is not up my alley. The five also gives you room for friends if someone else comes alone. I had my family of four and the stove in my two years ago on fathers day. A little cramped but we survived.

 

[stephen b]

I use a SL 5 when going with 2, and if I was going to consider a stove later I would not go less than an SL 5. With my wife I use a BWD Pyranet 2; and if using with another dude, I would use either a bivy ( I use a Ti Goat Raven with bug netting) or go with just Tyvek and no bivy if no bugs.

For solo early season I use a Integral Designs George tarp -Tipi Pyramid style , 21 oz ( no longer made) if I need more protection, or use a light weight simple 8 oz tarp plus stakes and a bivy if I know weather is going to be good. Most of the time I carry the extra weight of the Pyramid shelter so I can be prepared for what e Ed happens and have a little more wind protection; since my sleeping bag is very light- WM bag rated for 30 or 32 degrees and not much of a wind barrier. Inside the shelter I either use a bivy; no bivy, or a light weight net solo nest depending on how hot or buggy it is. Sometimes in Sept. as you know the bugs can be real bad- esp in Cascades- but usually I am over east.

You are correct in that there are a ton of choices- almost too many, it can be daunting.

Where is western oregon are you?

 

[bbell]

I am in polk county. I usually hunt the tillamook area for elk. I dont get out and backpack for elk much but like to do some summer trips and will be going out for deer a few days this year.