.223 for bear, deer, elk and moose.

[BLJ]

There isn’t a bear anywhere that I’d hesitate to put a 77TMK into. The wound channels and terminal performance of the bullet is impressive and effective.

That said, if you’re wanting exits, it may not be you’re huckleberry.

Is your experience solely with black bears? Any experience with grizzlies or browns? In reference to the 77 TMK. Thanks.

 

[PNWGATOR]

Is your experience solely with black bears? Any experience with grizzlies or browns? In reference to the 77 TMK. Thanks.

Only with black bears.

Would LOVE to make an AK big bear hunt a reality.

 

[Trackselk]

Bears are soft, nothing compared to a moose or even an elk. Thin hide and small bones...

 

[BryanL]

I’m going with the Federal Fusion 62gr in .223 for spring black bear this season. Took my kiddo out with my rokslide special and he shot steel for two hours straight. He is 5 years old and loved it. He was hitting the 14” gong at 200 yards and wants to go back every weekend. I also got a lot of trigger time in and it’s a great system to train with and hunt. Hopefully will have a bear picture to share in the next few weeks.

 

[robtattoo]

No hogs were inconvenienced last weekend.
Drier than a popcorn fart in South Texas.

 

[damnbluedog]

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[ShootOkHuntWorse]

What is recommended for an alternative for practice instead of the unicorn 77s? 77smk that I can find in seconds or 73eldm? Or something else? I am reloading.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

75 bthps work for practice and are cheap.

 

[BryanL]

I think Form and others noted using Hornady Frontier 68gr and 75gr bthp. Around me I can find scores of 69gr SMK but they are $.35 per. I’m planning on using 60gr hornady SP that I can find for $.16 per

 

[wind gypsy]

Finally just tried some factory 73 ELDs in my t3 lite and they shoot great! As good as anything I’ve put through it yet factory or handload.

 

[Kimber7man]

Ok since I have some Lapua 22-250 brass I’m thinking about buying a 22-250 8 twist T3X Lite in SS. Chopping the barrel, using my stash of 77 TMK’s.
Mainly for deer and maybe antelope.
Crazy?
What’s the consensus on barrel length and then powder charge?

 

[PNWGATOR]

Ok since I have some Lapua 22-250 brass I’m thinking about buying a 22-250 8 twist T3X Lite in SS. Chopping the barrel, using my stash of 77 TMK’s.
Mainly for deer and maybe antelope.
Crazy?
What’s the consensus on barrel length and then powder charge?

88 ELDMs would be nice out of that.

 

[Castle Rock]

Don’t chop unless you’re using a suppressor
77s or 88s over Varget

 

[Kimber7man]

Oh, it's getting chopped and suppressed!

 

[zacko]

A few pages of waffle here before you get into photos but some examples of .223 on NZ Game Animals . It has always being popular but has gained alot of traction with the 8 twist factory offerings

223 on deer

hey guys So i got me a sauer 100 in 223, its got a 10 twist barrel I plan on using it on fallow and the odd red. I plan on testing 53 vmax, and 60gr

www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.nz

 

[Lawnboi]

Hard to argue the BC advantage of the 88s if you can make them work.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Hard to argue the BC advantage of the 88s if you can make them work.

I shot some groundhogs and coyotes with 224 Valkyrie 88gr ELDM factory ammo. No way would I use those things on a big game animal. Based on my experience with them and what I've seen people post pics of in this thread they absolutely are not a substitute for 77gr TMK's.

 

[grfox92]

I figure this would be a good place to post this rather then start a new thread.

I listened to this podcast with Seth Swerczik from Hornady. They talked about a lot, but what got my attention is he went out of his way to say that they don't recommend their ELDM for hunting in any situation. He didn't just say it once or casually, but he made it a talking point. He stated that some people have great results at long range, but at shorter ranges they will be very inafective.

I'm not questioning the effectiveness of the bullets as I've seen most of the pictures in this thread.

Is the effectiveness of ELDM or TMK limited to smaller bullets like 6.5 or .223?

I have a box of 168g eldm in 308 that I was thinking about hunting with. Just wanted to see what you guys think.


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[Lawnboi]

I shot some groundhogs and coyotes with 224 Valkyrie 88gr ELDM factory ammo. No way would I use those things on a big game animal. Based on my experience with them and what I've seen people post pics of in this thread they absolutely are not a substitute for 77gr TMK's.

What did you see to suggest they are not a substitute?

Personally I don’t take much merit in what a bullet does to small game, seems like as long a tipped bullet expands they make a mess.

My plan was to use the 88 for my out west deer gun this year.

 

[rangerysidro]

Works great on whitetail ... not sure why you'd bother for the others.