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    Is it all Leopolds

    I think like many of said we agree there is a problem. The real question is how big of a problem and does it matter? We will never know, because these test won’t give us that nor will manufactures. What your saying is true but it’s also like saying I won the lotto while true, it doesn’t mean...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    As I said above I have read them. And yes the variance mimics field conditions, the error here is though if the ground is say x amount harder and the temp is 30 degrees colder and the drop is done even half an inch higher it could trigger a fault one scope and maybe not another. While variance...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    Yeah I agree with most of that . And yes no pro but we hunt mid long range and keep growing. And all this stuff is a great indicator. However we already know that any scope ever made can fail one way or another. What we really need to know is rate of failure by how much and we need to know...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    Yeah I was just some Joe blow army officer. Funny people like to throw credentials out when they get cornered. And when somebody’s first response to something is I did x in the military, instant credibility loss. Funny I don’t remember 3/4 of the military being SF. Ever notice how everybody...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    While true if your goal is to find or know if there is/was a failure. However the rate of failure is vastly more important then if something has failed, as we know all scopes fail already. Some good info on this page but you have to understand what you are looking at. Even the drop test that...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    Been in DoD acquisition for a min. SOCOM doesn’t have to follow typical FAR rules or do the lowest bidder. That’s hand selecting my friend. SOCOM also has co developed equipment with manufactures. Now does private snuffy get to walk into Cabelas and get what he wants, no and that’s not what...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    Yeah SOCOM hand selects stuff. Your standard sniper in an infantry company not so much. Will say this though most weaponry components have been pretty good going back the last 20 years or so. Will also say with the acog most guys would be qualified snipers from 50-70 years ago. I think...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    Yes. It’s good info and there very well may be an issue. It just would be foolish to accept anything presented here as fact.
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    Is it all Leopolds

    Agreed. However scopes aren’t built to be used like a car daily. Different entity. Point was I can go anywhere and find people unhappy on the internet. Really doesn’t mean a whole lot on the face of it. Me you or the next guy have no way to verify who’s responding here and their credentials...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    Good point. However people are fan boys. Searching the internet there’s enough to say there is smoke, however not sure there’s enough to say there is fire. Partially could be people just miss and don’t know or just don’t know in general. Average deer shot is something like 100yds across the...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    I appreciate your input and never said you were wrong. All this definitely helps. My only point is data and incidents matter. I own a f150. And I can go right now on the internet. and find 250 people upset about something on that truck. However with a million made a year, 250 people saying x...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    Just shows there’s an issue but doesn’t show the depth of the issue. We also don’t know models were they low end or high end. Every item that rolls down a production line will have defects, and typically there’s an acceptable number or percent when you mass produce anything. That poll doesn’t...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    I’m no math wiz, but sample size matters. 256 total votes is clearly not enough of a sample size. The margin of error on that poll would be massive. The other issue is it doesn’t compare against other brands. Its not nearly enough to make an informed decision, at those numbers it’s an opinion.
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    Is it all Leopolds

    That’s a good point and it’s valid. Overall it’s still a very small sample of the pros saying they identified an issue. And yeah I’m sure a lot of guys would never have a clue you are right. Still going to say it’s hard to draw some real conclusions, I wasn’t there, was it the ammo, skill...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    Thanks. Yeah I’m in the car forums and it’s same banter. Sometimes hard to just find truth in any of it. Yeah I’m the in car forums as well and it’s the same banter. Hard to read between the lines. One thing about online though is like anything else you almost always see all the complaints for...
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    Is it all Leopolds

    I don’t how much to read into the non durability of leupold. Is this across all models. I’m looking at the mark 5
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    Best Ammo for Browning Xbolt

    Just picked up a browning x bolt mountain pro. Narrowed Ammo down to the Hornady ELDX 178 or 200grain, Federal Terminal ascent 200 grain. However Ive used bergers in the past and loved those, does massive damage and accurate, Federal has a berger hybrid in 185 grains. Always barnes 165...
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    NF vs Trijicon

    Thanks yeah that’s the tree that a lot guys don’t like. I’m looking at MOA with much simpler reticles
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    NF vs Trijicon

    by chance what reticle was it
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    NF vs Trijicon

    Been down every hole including these forums, lots of good info, lots of fanboy info, good and about the internet I suppose. Either way Im down to NF or Trijicon, anybody own or use both. Im down to the NX8 or ATACR, for the Trijicon Im looking at the Accupoint or Tenmile, looking at the 50...

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