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  1. Roughwater

    2024 Montana Alternates list

    appreciate all the input
  2. Roughwater

    2024 Montana Alternates list

    If I wanted to ask Google I would have but I wanted to ask a actual hunter who had done it before.
  3. Roughwater

    2024 Montana Alternates list

    I am a Non-resident and have applied several times to hunt Elk in Montana. I applied but didn't draw this year. I have never tried to get on the Alternates list. Could someone that has used it let me know when that option is available and what is the process? Thanks.
  4. Roughwater

    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    If you are not a shoe in to draw next year with 3 points something terriable is wrong with the system. I expect to to have 2 points next year since I didn't draw this year but feel like my odds are still above 50% next year to draw so not bad odds for sure. I will try to get on a alternate list...
  5. Roughwater

    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    I'm thinking around the end of the month but I don't recall for sure. I do remember that it seemed to take a long time to get refunded the last time I didn't draw.
  6. Roughwater

    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    I went in with the always unsuccessful 1 point. But it says "So FAR", so maybe there is still a chance!
  7. Roughwater

    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    My drawing success doesn't look good: Successful × Warning: You do not have any successfully drawn licenses/permits for drawings finalized so far in 2024. Not Successful 2024 Big Game Combo - General
  8. Roughwater

    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    I see no activity (results) yet but it's only about 5 AM eastern time here in NC. Trying not to be overly anxious or hopefull but I do want to know as early as possible so can make fall plans. I haven't decided yet if I want to pursue another state Elk hunt or just fish a lot in the fall this...
  9. Roughwater

    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    Sounds right. Good luck!
  10. Roughwater

    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    3rd year? Since I did buy a point this year, if I don't draw this year I will buy a point next year and hopefully draw with 2 points next year as I did last year. Hopefully it won't take me 2 more years to draw though I know it could but last year I believe having 2 points gave me a roughly 80%...
  11. Roughwater

    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    I'm a little confused about that part of the draw? I know the odds are better with zero points and I know there is a option to purchase a point around July but I thought I would not be eligible to buy that point later in the year if I had entered the draw that same year and didn't purchase a...
  12. Roughwater

    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    I entered the draw this year with only 1 point but I have a secret stradagy that's probably likely to fail but we will see? Last year I got in with 2 points and felt pretty lucky to have drawn. I will likely only Bow hunt if I'm lucky enough to draw as I don't really have the money to travel to...
  13. Roughwater

    Montana Preference point question?

    Don't forget the game bird tag too that comes with the license. Me and my hunting buddy didn't get a Elk but we (he) shot a grouse which we cooked up. I guess you could call it a consolation prize.
  14. Roughwater

    Montana Preference point question?

    I hadn't looked at it that way but I imagine that could be correct. So what year would you prefer to draw maybe is the question? If this year your odds are not good as I'm sure you know. I could see where a person might only choose to purchase a preference point the first year. It would...
  15. Roughwater

    Montana Preference point question?

    I think I'm dumb enough to dumb it down. Enter the draw this year and don't wait till the last day. If you just plan to hunt Elk purchase the Elk Combo, if Elk and deer purchase the Big Game Combo. If hunting Archery select Bow and arrow. Purchase the preference point for 100 dollars. Don't...
  16. Roughwater

    Camping distance from Elk

    In the unit I hunt in one state I camp just off the forest service rd. When the Elk are bugling I frequently hear them from my tent. I left the tent early one morning before my hunting partner to chase them. Fortunately for him while he was cooking breakfast for himself when 3 elk including a...
  17. Roughwater

    Sidearm or Not?

    I carry in Montana but never bothered to carry in Colorado, Utah or Idaho. I have never fired my handgun while hunting. I carry a Glock 10 mm. Cause it's one of the lightest higher power hand guns that I'm aware of and holds more rounds than a revolver.
  18. Roughwater

    Legalized robbery that needs to stop.

    I just want one Elk. Cow or bull. You all can fight over the rest if you want. Does Wyoming take in more money than Montana? I don't know where the theft is either. Just looks like a lot of number, some pretty big ones. But I bet some other states have pretty big numbers too? I am 74 and am...
  19. Roughwater

    Montana and this math intensive pref point system for the combo elk tag - Ramblin'

    I just wanted to thank you for putting together the stats. Pretty interesting! Nice to see the odds actually look like.
  20. Roughwater

    Montana and this math intensive pref point system for the combo elk tag - Ramblin'

    I totally agree! You all that hate the system ditch your points and go to any other state! I don't hate the system so if you all do that I can probably draw every year and don't have to buy a point. I think it's a brilliant idea!
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