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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Hmmm, very interesting options here. And of course I go from narrowed down "almost ready to buy" back to analysis paralysis! hahaha, you guys are the worst in the best of ways :)
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Also just realized I've been crunching all my numbers at sea level when I usually chase elk at 10k+. Wow is that a gamechanger hahaha
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    When I crunched all these numbers I was setting threshold for 1900 fps, 1500 ft lbs (elk), and 1000 ft lbs (deer) cuz I had heard mixed views on which of those mattered most. I've been hearing people saying they like the Hornady HITS formula, but I can't find an online calculator for it
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Here's a curveball for the folks thinking about recoil - there's a lefty savage timberline 280 AI I could pick up used off the classifieds for $750. Adds 2 lbs to the rifle weight and brings my total to 10 lbs, but that 1) Gives me a cool cartridge in the stable and 2) brings the recoil down to...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Yeah, I was really banking on the suppressor to get the PRC down into the 12-14 ft lbs range. But maybe it's worth just getting the creed at first. I need to crunch some more numbers on that one to see how it stacks up with heavier elk bullets, cuz the load I checked it on had it falling below...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Damn - guess everyone has lemons
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Thanks man! I'll update the post when I pull the proverbial trigger
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    @Taudisio Colorado Springs It's unfortunate with guns because you of course can't return them after your fire them to verify they shoot well
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    I will say, the savage complaints are all "action is a little rough" or "stock is a little loose", not "rifle was fundamentally flawed and had to be repaired"
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Could definitely see the illuminated reticle being nice. That's just a hefty chunk of change for it. But from what I've read NF is a buy it for life scope
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    @wind gypsy Good explanation! I'll give it a try with my shotgun tonight to see if I can feel what you're talking about Dang it all - so the brake seems like it's a wash for a new shooter. I'll spare everyone my "suppressors should be on the shelves next to the scopes" rant, but it really...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Good catch! If 9x is enough that thing does look like a really happy middle ground. Decent weight and FFP
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    @wind gypsy Interesting note on the stocks, cuz the savage has that adjustable stock as well (not in the grip angle category, but for cheek and lop). I'd definitely want to handle either before swiping the credit card. Haha, yeah what are forums for if not picking fly poop out of pepper :)...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Fair point and a good analogy cuz there's also always people saying "you need at least a 70 lb bow and this massively heavy arrow to kill an elk", when you know that's not true. Always more things to think on - gift and a curse with you roksliders!
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    I was a bit concerned about that for sure. Crunching the numbers it looks like the 6.5 PRC in an 8 lb rifle averages about the same as a 7 rem mag in a 10 lb rifle at ~20 ft lbs. So I'm kinda banking on the suppressor bringing that down for a new shooter, but I also won't have that in hand for a...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    The creed was interesting, and I'm sure it'd work at proper ranges with proper placement, but tbh I've just managed to get myself comfortable with the PRC on elk vs going to a 7 mm cartridge. Probably a mental thing but I know if I'm not fully confident taking the shot I'm not gonna make a good...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    And for every horror story on CA there's people saying this too! Not making the decision easy on me guys haha Yeah, I've been listening to tons of podcasts on the subject. Really good episodes in "Backcountry Hunting" breaking down bullet selection. That's actually another motivator for getting...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    I could step back to the Enticer S-TI, gain an extra inch and a half...very interesting. On the one had it's "only 2 inches", on the other those inches add up when you're weaving through brush and trees. Great news on the mag! Honestly in my mind I should only need one, but I also carry around...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Definitely still weighing both options, and that's some compelling testimony for the savage! On paper the CA just has a lot going for it... The weight difference is a nice to have, but honestly it irks me that savage stuck with a 24" barrel on there when they know that threading makes me want...
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    Sanity check first rifle config (elk, lightweight)

    Huh, very interesting read on the 6.5 PRC reloading issues! For anyone who wants to geek out on it just Google "6.5 PRC Dies not sizing enough", the first link should be the LRO forum thread on it. Luckily it looks like it only starts up on thrice fired brass and is an easy fix with a custom...

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